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Overall, 39% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely proud" to be American in the most recent poll.

Meanwhile, only 18% of those aged 18-34 said the same, compared to 40% of those aged 35-54 and 50% of those 55 and over.

18% is still too high. As Obama's pastor said, God damn America! Americans have very little to be proud of at this point.

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[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Many young Americans lack experience outside the country, meaning they have a warped, likely from the internet, sense of what's right and wrong when compared to other parts of the world.

I'm proud to be an American, in the sense that I'd rather be here than many other parts of the world, even though I recognize there are issues requiring more attention and/or progress. Perhaps it helps that I view things under my own objective lens, gaining first hand experience in many cases, rather than sitting behind a screen and amping up my ignorance.

It's OK to disagree with me of course. Everyone has their reasons, whether pro or anti, but I'd personally question how much experience people younger than myself have in other parts of the world. Many Americans take things for granted with little understanding of how good they have it. Obviously not always the case, but traveling the world is eye opening and no amount of internet research can substitute those experiences.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On the flip-side of this, I had a close friend who traveled the world extensively for 10+ years. Last time I saw him he had visited 65 different countries, often living for months or even years in some of them. He hated coming back to the USA. He said our ideas of freedom and liberty are complete fabrications compared to a great many EU and Asian countries. He always had to add hours to his flight times when traveling through or within the US because he refused to go through the naked scanner, because he felt that they violate our individual rights and privacy. He said he didn't need to deal with those anywhere else. That's just one small example out of a list of dozens that he gave me.

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[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being proud of anything that you had no influence over always strikes me as odd.

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[–] LoyalOrange503@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I am proud of when the US, or anyone does good things. When that's not the case, why be proud?

[–] CaptObvious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Who could blame them?

[–] kennuckies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's hard to have true perspective on what it means to be an American with my limited travel. I've never been out of the country. I've been to most southern states, but live in the west coast now (much prefer it here) and am very aware of my bubble. It doesn't take interaction from people living in countries with free healthcare and great work reform to know that our shit is fucked, though. Proud - not yet. Determined to make this a better place - yes.

[–] mavedustaine@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never got the point of civil pride. I was born and raised in a third world country, and people left and right were saying how proud they are to be from there. The fuck y’all proud of? Trash everywhere? Tourists getting scammed and harassed? Your own government making people “disappear”? Your president building unnecessary bridges and crippling the economy?

It always sounded so stupid honestly

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Old people, too. Hell half my family has left the US since COVID hit. Crazy stuff.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
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