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I’m considering purchasing a steamdeck. I may be away from my computer when I get the steamdeck. Could there be any issues with setting up games without access to a computer with my steam account? I assume cloud saves will be available. What about setting up a game that requires rockstar launcher?

Edit: Thanks for the feedback. It looks like the answer is no, I don’t need access to a computer with my steam account.

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You'll be fine. The Steam Deck is a PC itself.

[–] blackbarn@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

I don't even own a PC but have had a SD from the beginning. All good here!

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago

You don't need any other device to set up the steam deck unless you have 2FA through the steam app or something.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

You'd have to try hard to do it without a pc, since it's a pc itself.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least in RDR2 (the only Rockstar game I have) the launcher works like you'd expect – ie. it's annoying as shit but no different from the PC version. I've had a Deck for a couple of years now and haven't needed my desktop for anything related to it.

[–] mindlessLump@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Excellent news.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Out of the box it works, including cloud saves.

The only thing I needed my PC for was to upgrade the SSD: I used my desktop to prepare a flash drive with the SteamOS image. Honestly you could probably do that using a USB adapter on the Steam Deck, booting with the original SSD.

It really comes down to convenience. It takes a minute or so to switch between desktop and gaming modes on the Deck. A lot of stuff is easier if you have a larger screen or two, plus a mouse and keyboard. And file transfers are faster over Ethernet. All of those things you can either work around with the Deck as it is, or you can use a dock or hub to plug in those extra peripherals, but it's still an inconvenience unless you're planning on using it docked often.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I cloned my original ssd on the new ssd, without using a computer. I used an usb nvme box.

An important thing, is after the swap, the OS will create the other partitions ( like swap) during the first boot. So be patient after cloning directly th

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not really. The only big issue I could see is if you needed create a bootable USB to restore SteamOS.

It's also occasionally easier to install non-Steam games on a desktop and transfer over the files but that's mostly just about saving time.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And you can create the bootable USB with the Deck before you swap the SSD. You should never need a second PC to set up the Deck unless you bought your Deck without an OS installed already.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but what are they going to create the bootable USB on if SteamOS is corrupt?

I don't really expect someone to always have a bootable USB on hand for each OS they use.

[–] Sinupret@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You could probably use your phone. I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure it's possible.

And you don't need a bootable USB for every OS you have. You only need one and can create whatever you need on that live system. In case of the steam deck you could also have an SD card with a different OS and create your SteamOS stick there.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah when there's a will there's a way. You could install Linux on a Nintendo Wii and find a way to create a bootable USB from there but it's pretty much always going to be easier to use a desktop to create it is my point.

I just thought it's a minor inconvenience worth noting.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

That's why I mentioned the "without an OS installed already" though a corrupt OS is another possibility that would need some other system available (whether phone, tablet, another Deck, or PC).

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s also occasionally easier to install non-Steam games on a desktop and transfer over the files but that’s mostly just about saving time.

And honestly that would be solved with a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not really. The issue I'm talking about is long install times not clicking and dragging. Tale of Two Wastelands I think took took me twelve hours to install on my Steam Deck versus one and a half on my PC

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, that's very uncommon. TTW is notorious for taking a long time to install. Most installers that are not bizarrely CPU heavy will work fine.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 9 months ago

Sure but TTW wasn't the only CPU heavy installer I've encountered. My marginally stronger desktop has saved me a lot of time in that situation

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How did you install TTW on your steam deck without a pc to run the installer? I’m willing to put up with the 12 hours if I have to.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You can install TTW on the Steam Deck. You could probably set it up in Lutris and just alter the selected executable back and forth throughout the installation process.

That said Gnarly Repacks has a TTW repack that streamlines the process.

How did you come across this post by the way? Just curious considering it's three months old.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you. I’ll look into Lutris and Gnarly repacks when I have a day to mess around.

I found this post by doing a search for “TTW” on mbin and got lucky. YouTube and Reddit have been all but useless as tutorials all assume you have a windows pc for heavy lifting. I got a deck to be my pc.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 6 months ago

I found this post by doing a search for “TTW” on mbin and got lucky. YouTube and Reddit have been all but useless as tutorials all assume you have a windows pc for heavy lifting. I got a deck to be my pc.

Neat. By the way check the megathread for Gnarly's reentry page. His old website is down.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 9 months ago

The Steam Deck generally does not use an external PC to set up. It is a PC, and can be put into a (Linux-based) desktop mode, which is generally what you’d use for any configuration beyond what the Steam menus give you.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 9 months ago

You only need your Steam account and wifi access. Everything can be done on the device. You can pop up a virtual keyboard with Steam+X. When you hold down the Steam-Button you get an overview of all the shortcuts.

[–] Emerica@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I never needed my computer for any reason while setting either of my Decks up so you should be good. Never tried any Rockstar game on the deck so I can’t be sure but I don’t see any reason a computer would be needed.

You can always just switch to desktop mode on the Deck and use the regular version of Steam if anything requires it. The only time I’ve needed to do that though was when I wanted to add some box art to a non-Steam game.

Just make sure all your cloud saves are synced from your PC and you should be good!

Oh and make sure you can access your email somehow, or Steam Guard on your phone if you have it set up, it’ll probably have to verify your account when you sign in the first time.

[–] mindlessLump@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think that is the main thing I need to do. Check all my cloud saves for the games I want to continue. Thanks.