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[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 43 points 7 months ago (2 children)

“The Socialist Party […] (was) founded in 1971 as the Communist Party of the Netherlands/Marxist–Leninist”

Wow based. Wait a minute…

“the party has since moderated itself from Marxism–Leninism and Maoism towards democratic socialism and social democracy.”

Ah yeah…..

[–] axont@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Welcome to Europe. The party called the social democrats are liberals. The socialists are social democrats. And the party called the "Marxist-Leninist Revolutionary Communists" are the moderate socialists who get 3% of the vote and sometimes they endorse policies to ban all foreigners

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, the PCP (Portuguese Communist Party) is pretty decent… and… yeah…

[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago

I finally understand liberals now. This is what cultural marxism must be about.

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if that moderation happened before or after Mohammed Al-Bukhaiti left

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

“In 1991, the SP officially scrapped the term Marxism–Leninism because the party had evolved to the point that the term was no longer considered appropriate.”

Also, the party has a “left conservative” wing that opposes worker migration… feels like a chud party masquerading as leftists.

[–] DetachedFromOthers@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago

Since it happened in 1991, it's definitely related to the fall of USSR.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

The inevitable path of social democracy

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is just the most UltraLeft party in the Nether''land''

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Damn, RIP to the Dutch in the chat

[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Sounds a bit like the SLF in Lithuania (any lithuanian comrade here who can provide a better analysis of the SLF) From what I've read, the SLF seems like a patsoc/nazbol org

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A Dutch socialist. That's like being a death metal drummer in a boy band.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago
[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I live in the Netherlands and the people who call themselves socialists here are invariably Trotskyists or Social Democrats. It has a reputation of being some kind of "leftist", "progressive" country but it's politics are neoliberal and people are hyper individualistic. I think the " Polder model" is a result of a mindset that's the result of being eternally under threat of flooding and the cooperation that needs to happen to prevent that. Otherwise it would be the Texas of Europe.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wdym "the Texas of Europe"?

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Neither have been great analogies to be fair. I meant to imply some kind of "rugged individualism", self orientation, insular, anti-social, me me me.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago

Jimmy Dijk is Hamas

[–] Weyland@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any socialist party in the Netherlands who aren't larping, reformist, or infighting?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Weyland@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't really a gotcha though... Just want to equate the Netherlands, my place of birth, with something else than the feeling of dread and misery.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, pretty much all of principled left parties have been systematically eradicated in the west at this point. We have a lot of people who mean well, but it's doing to take a lot of effort to start building serious parties.

[–] Weyland@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago

I'm giving you a like not because I like what you say but because I appreciate your reply.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago