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Since at least the summer of 2022 and the creation of Operation Lone Star, the state of Texas has flagrantly violated federal law, illegally installing razor wire and barring federal agents from accessing the border. This illegal abrogation of border authority recently played a part in the death of 3 migrants crossing the Rio Grande, as Texas ignored their distress and wouldn't allow Federal border agents to aid them.

Yesterday, January 23rd, the Supreme Court, in a 5-4 ruling, ordered Texas to allow federal agents access. The Texas National Guard released a statement that they will continue to "hold the line" at Colby Park.

There are no heroes in this story, as we are all painfully aware of the abuses perpetrated by federal border control, and are under no illusions about what their authority means for migrants. However, Operation Lone Star and Texas' unilateral border policies are even MORE dangerous, even MORE outrageous than the existing federal policies, so this Supreme Court ruling marks a chance to scale back some of the most egregious human rights violations.

(Taken from an email sent to me by Never Again Action.)

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 56 points 9 months ago
[–] Sinistar@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

Come on. Lets see the Texas National Guard and the Border Patrol get into open conflict. It would be the first time either of them has fought a peer enemy, and it would produce some chefs-kiss combat footage.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope Texas tries to secede so Mexico can take it back lmao

[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago

The only fair outcome

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 9 months ago

Omg please let the fascists start killing each other.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 9 months ago

And now 25 republican governors released a joint statement supporting Texas https://www.rga.org/republican-governors-ban-together-issue-joint-statement-supporting-texas-constitutional-right-self-defense/

Biden can federalize Texas National Guard. However, this is typically done in specific circumstances and with legal justifications, such as responding to a national emergency or protecting federal interests. What happens if they refuse, or even a significant portion of them refuse. This seems like a really volatile situation. Meanwhile, if the feds do nothing then they end up looking like they were bluffing and got called.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 9 months ago

Balkanize already

[–] miz@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago

Hitler without a moustache is not something I’ve ever seen before. It’s unsettling lol

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

carve it up like they did the ottomans after ww1

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The ottomans balkanized Texas??? /s

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think they're referring to the balkanisation of Ottexamas on 25 December 1897, when Texas seceded from the Ottexamas, leading to its renaming as the 'Ottoman Empire'. Some people still celebrate this event on every year, although the name of celebration sometimes takes its modern spelling, Xmas, often confused as shorthand for Christmas.

[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

What will really make me think we're in the real cool zone is if the Biden administration officially activates the Texas National Guard and orders them to stand down and the ATG of Texas refuses the orders and keeps riding with governor dipshit

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

this eu4 game getting spicy

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] axont@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Haha what a story Mark

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Seeing leftists choose Texas is crazy lol

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I want to watch American troops fire at each other, nothing to do with "choosing" a side.

From like an imperial defeatist standpoint, it makes sense to "support" Texas on the basis of it being the much weaker force, and strengthening it supports causing greater damage to the feds without giving Texas a snowball's chance in Hell of winning anyway. I don't really hold that position because keeping it in substanceless Discourse over a flash-in-the-pan issue is silly, but I suppose it can make sense.

And wanting to see Texas get into a fight is 100% not supporting Texas, it's wanting to see Texas eat shit in that fight (and watch feds take a hit).

[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

What Texas is doing is disgusting and inhumane but ignoring the federal government along with other Republican-run states allows for interesting things to happen that could have positive consequences, such as the breakup of the US

The best possible outcome here is for Texas to be annexed by Mexico, it is a possibility but not inevitable

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Breakup of the US is definitely not in the cards if you ask me. They both routinely masturbate to the US flag, they’re just measuring dicks to see who satisfies the USA better, none of these Southerners will ever say the US is bad. They’ll just make up their own more racist version of America and cling to that

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here's a better idea- breakup of the US into many different statelets, each one claiming to be the One True America™ and seeking to reunite the country in wars of conquest and subjugation of their fellow competing Yankee nationalists. Let the US have its own warring states or warlord period, except that, without the indigenous, civilizational society to fall back upon and instead only settler-colonial squatting and theft, eventually one can hope all wretched dreams of maintaining or reforming the American state will be thoroughly drained from the people.

I certainly, fully support it. May the best America "win!"

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[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I dont think Mexico wants Texas back, I could be wrong though

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If they ever get it back, they should allow and facilitate unrestricted immigration from across the globe, and particularly the global south and indigenous and Mestizo Latinos, to de-Yankify the place. See how the Texans like their just desserts; it is only right that settler-colonial land should be properly brought back to the fold of multiracial humanity and indigeneity of some form.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That would be great, but it implies Mexico is any good. They have terrible border policy too, trying to keep darker people from getting in to Mexico and by proxy the US. It’s just another settler state.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On one hand, agreed - but on the other hand, at least Mexico is a Mestizo state, and one which has been the victim of modern imperialism rather than its perpetrator.

Mexico has the spirit to more than redeem its colonial history, IMO- and indigenism is not out of the question as well under it. As I see it, so long as the Anglo settler-genocidaires are running the show on the other hand the opposite is true.

Worst case scenario, Texas becomes new cartel territory with a Yankee insurgency to boot, but it deals a blow to imperialism.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I don't deny any of that, but there's still a danger in idealizing Mexican settlerism. I'm curious your thoughts on this related podcast that I happened to listen to today.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Halfway through the vid and- I do wholly agree however that there is no "earned indigenism," certainly not for those whose claim to the land stems from settler-colonial genocide- if anything, such actions I almost feel should cast a metaphorical curse upon all their descendants, an eternal repudiation of any indigeneity they might claim to hold. Settler-colonials certainly cannot become indigenous IMO, because the colonial apsect permanently scars the culture. Boers are not indigenous, for instance (though that does not mean they deserve to be genocided or mistreated- they, like the Rhodesians, and like the Americans, Canadians, etc. still today, do not deserve the land however). Even 1000 years onwards, I do not think that the white American peoples can ever dare hold claim to indigenism, unless they return to Europe. Metis on the other hand are native, etc. of course

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Still watching and indeed, I'm really starting to see your point. Mixed feelings about it; I certainly have no intentions nor aspiration to ever claim indigeneity to the Americas, for instance (though I have always seen the indigenous here as distant kin who crossed Beringia thousands of years ago, and racially related kin, not in the sense of geography and history, but outright similar shared racial characteristics that have seen our experiences and treatment at times overlap greatly).

To me, the homeland (China, despite that I've never been- and on a broader pan-Asian sense, Asia, as a center of much of human civilization and what I identify with) has always held a nigh sacred position in my mind. Not as an ethnostate, not as some state to unilaterally support regardless of its actions, but as a place that was denied me by circumstance but that I feel- as an atheist- a near religious reverence and longing for, and always have, and the notion it a part of my very being, written into my DNA you might say- the land of my ancestors on both sides, the land that stands for my heritage and the continent and general region that stands for my race, for my very dignity (however things may be further complicated and I can get into those matters, I would stand by saying all that).

The appropriation of indigeneity they're describing, to me seems like the epitome of white colonizer shit, indeed.

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[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While I agree with your assessment, I have been under the assumption that the reason for this has been because of not so subtle pressure from the Empire to use Mexico as a buffer from the farther south Latin American nations.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Zimmerman telegraph 2

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does Mexico even want Texas back at this point?

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think Mexico has bigger fish to fry. Half of Mexico is essentially owned by cartel fiefdoms. There is no way they would agree to take on Texas.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 9 months ago

As I see it, what's bad for the empire, is good for humanity. May America balkanize into 1000 little statelets, or a few great indigenous states with the return of rightful Mexican territory and many white Bantustans, inshallah

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

are we choosing Texas, or is there a need for Texas to take a step for a next step of a plan. I have not seen anyone say Texas is good or in the right, just that Texas doing a Texas causes other things to happen, that would not be the worst in a global setting.

Note I am saying this as a yank with family in Texas, and most of it only a handful of states away, however I admit I am personally many many states away so will likely see less impact personally of anything that happens. However this will hasten the collapse of the empire

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Idk, Texas doing its thing doesn’t read as an L for the US as much as it reads for a worse reality for illegal immigrants and minorities in the region.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the feds back down to their own state, I think there would be some blowback in their other relations. Given America's repeated recent failures at war (the thing they are supposed to be good at) and apparent inability to keep even their own states in line. Vassal states could start taking a long hard look at their own position.

He says, hopeful that his own country will buck US occupation.

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

I’ll give you that, the vassal states of the US will have a hell of a lot less Respect for the US if anything happens in Texas seriously

[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago

If the empire cannot even keep their own states in line how can they be expected to keep their forign vassles in line. On top of that this will lead to the Imperial Military needing to spend time and resorces putting their state back in line. This farther pulls back the fascade

[–] ComradeChopin@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is a nothingburger. It's genuinely not as dramatic as a lot of the sensational reporting paints it to be and even if it was, Biden will be a cuck per usual and do nothing (of course, that is still bad for the Empire).

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Andrew Jackson did it. Why can't they?

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo?

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Moderate rebels.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago

Imagine packing then court, and then getting mad when that court doesn’t agree with 100% of what you want. Literal babies.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I'm not an accelerationist, but I can't say no to a civil war in the core

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

It's not a coincidence that major news stations are actively dodging this story. They can't have it get out to normal people that we're on the verge of a massive domestice incident and Biden is making speeches about beer and bridges.

[–] HaSch@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Bah, Americans know nothing about secession. Their next one will still be as bloody, uncultured, and half-baked as the last. Vienna, meanwhile, has made a whole art form out of it

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