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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Does the UK have every elemental boss? If so what happens if you beat them all?

[–] Fudoshin 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nothing will change when Labour gets in. They already reversed their plan to renationalise water companies. So we will remain the only country in the world with privatised water.

[–] apis@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, until capture of the press is addressed, Labour remain reliant on very Tory media for a win.

Once they're in office they can do as they please.

But even if they don't turn away from neoliberalism, they're still massively preferable to Tories, simply because they're markedly less corrupt, because they're broadly competent & because they act in good faith even if I might strongly disagree with some policies.

Lesser evil is less evil. They are not the same.

[–] Fudoshin 2 points 10 months ago

I live in a Labour safe seat so my vote is irrelevant. My MP doesn't even reply to emails sent by his constituents so I don't think me voting against them will matter.

So I'll vote either Lib Dem or Greens depending on their policies come election date.

[–] tenebrisnox 2 points 10 months ago

World leading water! Greatest water in the entire universe! Most amazing water in this realm of reality! Wealth-ceators deserve big pay ris… Oops, sorry, I’d gone full-Tory for a moment.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It comes amid outrage over illegal sewage dumping, with water firms in England seeking to hike customers' bills by an extra £156 a year to invest in Britain's Victorian infrastructure.

Labour has pledged to give the water regulator new powers to ban payouts to bosses of firms that are illegally polluting rivers, lakes and seas if it wins the next election.

Steve Reed, the shadow environment secretary, said: "This Conservative government has wilfully turned a blind eye to corruption at the heart of the water industry.

"The result is stinking, toxic sewage destroying our countryside, and consumers facing higher bills while failing water bosses pocket millions in bonuses."

Labour said it will go further by allowing the regulator to ban bonuses altogether and making sure chief executives face personal criminal liability for "extreme and persistent" lawbreaking.

Read More:Teacher forced to quit job after chronic condition linked to sewage pollutionDown the drain: What went wrong with Britain's water system?


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[–] baggins@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Make them drink it.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

That's all?

[–] Fudoshin -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Think Labour will reverse this @frankPodmore@slrpnk.net?

I'm doubting that personally. Especially considering they reversed their pledge to renationalise water. After they reversed their pledge to renationalise trains and other utilities.

How many news stories of reversals do you have to see @frankPodmore@slrpnk.net before you accept that Labour are just competent Tories?

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they'll claw back bonuses that have already been paid, if that's what you mean, but I do think they'll do broadly what Steve Reed describes in the article. It's pretty much win-win for Labour, because it's revenue neutral and obviously popular. And it might even actually stop them dumping sewage!

[–] Fudoshin -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't decide if you're woefully naive or a Red Tory. :/

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, not at all naive! As you've noted in your other comments, I'd just made the mistake of not noticing that I'm actually a Conservative. Now you've pointed it out to me, it's blindingly obvious that voting Labour and being a member of the Labour party and not wanting a Tory government is exactly what makes me a Tory. It's funny, isn't it, you go your whole life not noticing you're actually a Tory, then some stranger on the internet sees right through you.

[–] Fudoshin -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you need to take up smoking/vaping, or meditation.

Typical Champaigne-Socialist Londoner. So much pent-up rage.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago

I'll take a leaf out of your book in future and start tagging you in random comments to berate and insult you, then everyone will see how calm I am.