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[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 58 points 10 months ago (6 children)

First they'd need to start making good smartphones again.

/typed this on a Motorola phone

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 months ago

I have a moto from 2019 and I'm proud to announce that its has better support for Lineage os and includes a headphone jack.

[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 9 points 10 months ago

My Edge 40 is not too bad, except the fact that the nfc chip has needle point accuracy, so I have to place my phone exactly on the right place and somehow freeze my hand still at an atomic level or it wont work, but other than that it's pretty cool.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty happy with my edge 20, after going through a bunch of other brands in the past years. Any other brand I suspect may be better than Motorola is just not available anywhere near me.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I've liked my 22 moto

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Which one??

[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My Moto G Stylus 5g (terrible name) is quite good. I can't fathom buying a high-range phone when my $300 one has more processing power than I have ever used, including when playing games.

[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My Moto G Stylus 5G 2023 (worse name) works fine, but it's bigger than I'd like. Also, the camera is worse than I was expecting.

I'd still be using my old Moto X4 if the power button hadn't failed.

[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I'm a manchild so I like how big it is. The camera fits my purposes tbh.

[–] TedJ70@aussie.zone 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They'll need to lift their game on software updates for that to happen. Many of their handsets ship with an outdated version of Android, and they rarely see more than one major update.

[–] nsfwthrowaway411@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 months ago

This is what caused me to switch off Motorola. Their Moto Z phone with the magnet attachment thing was badass. But it was 2 major android versions behind, and was no longer receiving security updated by the third year I owned it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Custom ROMs work well on supported devices.

[–] TedJ70@aussie.zone 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No doubt, but custom ROMs aren't on your average buyers radar.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, although as far as I can tell they are getting a bit more popular on pixels as more people seek privacy.

Still pennies though

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

Even if they are, it's a drop in the bucket. And I imagine they're less popular now than they were in the early days of Android, during the height of Cyanogen Mod, and others.

I say this as a Graphene user.

[–] spiritedpause@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It would help to not have a complete mess of a naming scheme for their phones. It should be:

Moto E: Budget/entry level Moto G: Mid-range Moto Edge/RAZR: Flagship phones

There’s no need to confuse everything by adding 20 different versions of each tier with stylus/power/activ/whatever added to the name.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago

What's worse is that there are a bunch of country specific naming that leaves out what countries it won't work in. I bought a device, returned it and bought the same device only to realize it doesn't work in the US.

[–] localidiot@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago

Skimmed through their 2023 lineup and it kind of looks like Samsung a few years ago. Still, not as bad as Xiaomi and their amazing models and suffixes, which is a consolation prize I'm not sure any company should be proud of having.

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Moto Z? πŸ₯Ί

Seriously top tier phones, Z Force series was amazing

[–] spiritedpause@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Forgot about the Moto Z, I’d actually prefer they name their flagships that over Moto Edge

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

I just want the mods and the shatterproof screen back

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get me a decent phone with a jack and unlockable bootloader and yeah, I'd at least give you one sale.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I just want a refreshed Nexus 6. The 16:9 screen and front facing speakers made it so good for watching stuff.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

β€œI would bet a paycheck that in three years we will be number three around the world,” Zielinski said, laying out Lenovo’s ambition with Motorola.

He'd bet a paycheque. Not like he's betting his job on it.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 10 months ago

@can about $10 in layman's money.

@Blaze

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised it's not already. Had to look it up.

Apple

Samsung

Huawei

Moto

So they plan on overtaking Huawei.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

Nope, Moto is 8th.

According to IDC, the top three smartphone brands last year were Apple (20.1%), Samsung (19.4%), and Xiaomi (12.5%).Β 

Moto only has 4% market share currently...

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TLDR: They think they'll convert a large enough portion of the premium market (in specific geographic markets) that it'll put them into the top three.

Zielinski said most of the users for the Razr smartphone have converted from using a device that is β€œnot Android based.”

Part of the growth strategy revolves around the premium segment of the market, in which Apple and Samsung dominate.

β€œWe’re going to place as many bets as we can because we think the growth of the Indian population is fantastic, and they’re wonderful people.”

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Huh, didn't know Lenovo bought Motorola

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

That happened 10 years ago...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

They bought Motorola Mobility switch is a totally different company

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They also bought the ThinkPad line.

[–] anonionfinelyminced@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't buy another piece of Motorola/Lenovo garbage for any amount of money.

[–] cloudless 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I am never going to buy a phone from a company with strong ties with the CCP, and a history of installing spyware on its products.

[–] glingorfel@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

only certified grade A American spyware for me please 😀😀😀

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have you got any sources for Motorola phones coming with spyware on them?

[–] cloudless 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"The Chinese computer manufacturer Lenovo has been sentenced in the USA to pay USD 3.5 m as a fine for installing malware and adware (Superfish) on its laptops without informing its customers. By doing so, Lenovo committed the offence of computer break-in, as it wilfully undermined the security of its computers for users and made them vulnerable to cyber attacks."

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2017-005922_EN.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2022/12/28/as-china-tech-crackdown-continues-dont-overlook-the-danger-of-lenovo/?sh=5d27e6f25d72

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45756685

You are probably going to say "but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones".

Lenovo owns Motorola. If you want to trust the company feel free to do so.

[–] con_fig@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the info, I was not aware

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are probably going to say "but those are Lenovo laptops, not Motorola phones".

I asked for sources on Motorola phones being compromised, but I ain't seeing that still?

Aspersions don't equal anecdotes > evidence. You show me that and I'll shout louder than you.

[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Install LineageOS on it

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Go back to making phones like the moto X pure and we'll talk.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lenovo laptops are trash so I imagine their phones would be trash too. I'll stick to Pixel.

[–] ethd@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ThinkPads are often (but not always) great, but I'd otherwise 100% agree.

Motorola hasn't had a smartphone I've been interested in since the first-gen Moto X, and they were owned by Google at that time

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The old ones are good, but the newer ones are disappointing. I had a 9th gen X1 specced out and it was unusable for development. It would thermal throttle after only 2 minutes on anything more than 40% CPU. Keyboard was nice and screen was ok, but the thermals and battery life was horrible.

[–] ethd@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I absolutely had the X1 in my sights when I said they weren't always great. It's a laptop line that somehow misses every point of why people buy ThinkPads in the first place but because it looks good reviewers eat it up.

…Though you're absolutely correct that this problem is getting worse with newer models besides the X1 chasing whatever reviewers liked about the X1 line.

[–] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

My last three phones were pixels, latest is a Motorola. Finally having battery life again is sweet.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

They are currently having 4%. There's no way they triple or quadruple that in 3 years.

[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I had a Motorola until I broke the screen and pierced the battery trying to change the screen and damn do I miss the headphone port

[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

I think he'll lose that bet but more importantly, how is he laying down a challenge to Apple and Samsung when he's not even saying they'll surpass either?

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