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Google was already in the middle of a class-action lawsuit regarding the incognito mode, where they were accused of tracking user activity. And, they agreed to settle the lawsuit.

To conclude that and move on, they will have to make the necessary changes to prevent another lawsuit against them.

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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 68 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No shit.

It's never been a secret what incognito mode does. Websites have always still been able to do whatever they want with your traffic, because the browser doesn't control that in any way.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. But you don't get upvotes so easily by not shouting "Google bad!".

[–] sirdorius@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, this article is pretty bad at explaining the problem here. It's clear that other websites will try to track you, but the important part of this incognito drama is this:

The plaintiffs also accused Google of taking Chrome users' private browsing activity and then associating it with their already-existing user profiles.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/google-agrees-to-settle-in-chrome-incognito-mode-class-action-lawsuit/

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Of course they did. It doesn't take any kind of abuse of the browser to do that. It's all on the website side and everyone does that.

Ban most data gathering websites do. But this has literally zero to do with the browser.

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not true. If you're intentionally logged in to a website, sure, but tracking without an account requires action on the part of your browser, assuming you're using a VPN. Cookies, ad-IDs, user agent, preferred language, etc. is all information that the browser can decide if it provides or not.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I promise none of these people are using a VPN. IP is plenty.

Chrome never claimed it was spoofing any of those details, and spoofing those details without clearly telling the users what they're doing and why would murder the user experience. Their position as a browser had literally no impact on that tracking.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Of course, a better course of action could have been “actually” improving the incognito mode instead of just updating the notice.

An even better course of action is for people to switch to a browser that care about users' privacy and block trackers by default.

Google makes billions from targeted advertising every year, don't expect it to improve privacy unless it's forced to by regulation or competition.

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah if you use a google product and expect privacy, you dont know how google makes money.

[–] tardigrada@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

Google makes billions from targeted advertising every year, don't expect it to improve privacy unless it's forced to by regulation or competition.

Yeah, I have been wondering my whole life that there are so many people believing in 'privacy tools' by companies like Google. This is one of the things that mystifies me most.

[–] Liberbara@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

Agree! Here's a video for anyone who's looking for some help in this front from our friends of Techlore

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

TL;DR: Chrome doesn't stop trackers, so they're gonna add a warning that incognito doesn't stop trackers.

[–] peter 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does Firefox private browsing or Edge's..whatever they call it stop trackers? If not are they being sued too?

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, but they've included the warnings already, so they won't get sued.

[–] peter 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The edge message definitely isn't clear. The Firefox one is better though

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Chrome claimed “Now you can browse privately”, which none of these do. Also, your screenshot for Edge is outdated.

[–] peter 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't find a newer screenshot, I assume its just chromium wording now?

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. It's very different. I'm pretty sure this was changed way before this lawsuit.

[–] peter 2 points 10 months ago

Wow, I do kinda see why Google got sued now looking at those

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 16 points 10 months ago

I'm shocked.

[–] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 7 points 10 months ago
[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

Before they switched to the two column layout I swear the message used to be about the same as what they updated it to. But it's been a long time since I used Chrome.