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Former President Trump encouraged his Iowa supporters to caucus for him at any cost, joking that due to extreme winter weather, “even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it.”

Meteorologists warned of “life-threatening” conditions in Iowa for the weekend as the state prepares to caucus. Trump canceled three of his four in-person Iowa events Sunday due to the freezing cold and snow.

Windchill is projected to be as low as -40 degrees in parts of the state Monday, with temperatures also in the negative. The Hawkeye State is also recovering from a blizzard that rocked the region Friday and Saturday, icing roads.

“You can’t sit home. If you’re sick as a dog, you say, ‘Darling, I gotta make it,’” Trump said at an Indianola rally on Sunday. “Even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it, remember.”

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[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 156 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Beat me to it.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If anyone somehow missed this meme when growing up or are older, it's a CGI comedy movie called Shrek, and the man speaking is Lord , Farquaad who is voiced by the very talented John Lithgow.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 80 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Foolish if you think that's a joke. He genuinely feels this way.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd expect him to realise that he at least also needs them for the presidential election later this year. After that he could burn them off on some sort of insurrection or coup attempt

[–] gac11@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately, he doesn't need the votes in November he just needs the electors to say he won. He can claim fraud again when he loses

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So basically: "Some of you might die, but that's a chance I'm willing to take."

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 69 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fucking idiots refuse to recognize the contempt he shows for them. What a waste of biomass.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 9 months ago

Fucking seriously... This piece of shit cancelled events because of the weather, but says "remember even if you die in the proces you really need to do me a favor. Oh, hold on, ha... Ha. Ha? There I laughed, now I can say it was just a joke, but seriously fuck you and go vote for me."

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not a single MAGA nut will recognize that it wasn't a joke.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So many ‘Ghost Voters’! they have thousands of dead people voting!

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

All the dead people are saying it 🤣

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it's more that Trump supporters always resolve cognitive dissonance in a way that benefits Trump.

They short circuit their brains any time Trump says things that are insulting, demeaning, or patronizing to even them personally so that it's blamed on the democrats (e.g., "He only said that because the democrats are so bad that even if we die, it's worth it to beat them!"), treated as a joke (e.g, "What a saint, haha, it's sarcasm, so self-deprecating, making light of how important Trump is to this country."), or ignored (e.g., "Trump always keeps it entertaining, this is just him saying stuff."), in that order.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

It's also because conservatives value hierarchy. He's saying "If you vote and die, that's will ensure your status in the hierarchy". For people who value that, it's not a bad idea. I'm proud of going to vote during the pandemic (before there was a vaccine) just to kick this smelly fatass in the balls.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Its a serious issue. Nothing can ever be falsified, I honestly wonder what they would think if he demanded they defy gravity

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At this point, Trump could shoot one of his own supporters in the middle of 5th Avenue, and he'd only loose one vote.

[–] PwnTra1n@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Someone would vote for him anyway

Thinking about it now, the person he gunned down would probably become a martyr and used to increase his vote count somehow. Every bad thing he does seem to just increase his support.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago

Yeah, and do it in shorts and a t-shirt if you really want to own the libs!

I bet you're not MAN enough to walk there! I heard Trump recently did it without even wearing shoes!

I'm okay with Iowa Trump supporters throwing their lives away for Trump. If you're a fan of Trump in 2024 after all he's done, your removal will only improve society.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Very short sighted. Trump should want them to survive until the general election at minimum.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Right? As far as I can tell, the nomination is his as long as he's eligible. He doesn't need people dying to get it.

[–] Testuserplsignore@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago

Oh wow, -40F is -40 in Celsius as well. That's pretty rough indeed.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 23 points 9 months ago

Trump said “Even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it” jokingly? I suspect that it was no joke as the man has no empathy.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 20 points 9 months ago

Ain't this the same guy who was trying to get votes of people who died from COVID thrown out?

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

If Trump stood out in the cold and froze to death, that would totally be worth it.

[–] TaterTurnipTulip@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I am very ok with Trump encouraging behavior that could kill his followers. I hope they take his advice and go even if they're very sick with COVID.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I was just thinking that I 100% agree with Trump on this one.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

"Uhh! Get over your own death in the cold!!!"

  • sweaty, obese man dictating a fake tweet to an intern while sitting on a heated toilet.
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

this is not the first time trump has encouraged his supporters to die for him.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Same guy who told people not to vote in 2020.

Huh.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former President Trump encouraged his Iowa supporters to caucus for him at any cost, joking that due to extreme winter weather, “even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it.”

Trump canceled three of his four in-person Iowa events Sunday due to the freezing cold and snow.

The Hawkeye State is also recovering from a blizzard that rocked the region Friday and Saturday, icing roads.

The weather is expected to severely hamper turnout for the caucuses, but political analysts are unsure exactly how that may impact the result.

Trump rivals hope the weather will depress turnout for the former president and boost their more die-hard supporters.

The bitter cold has also impacted the rest of the Midwest and beyond, with more than 110 million people under wind chill advisories Sunday from the Rocky Mountains to New England.


The original article contains 254 words, the summary contains 139 words. Saved 45%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] 520@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

-40 ?! I don't think I ever experienced -40 in my life.

[–] Oszilloraptor@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Funnily" we don't even need to ask if it's Celsius or Fahrenheit

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

I actually checked because I'm ignorant and they use Celsius where I live.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

at least it wasn't a global warming joke

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly this is why Trump is so popular. If the left was half as motivated they would rule.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"If"? I don't know how old you are but people lined up around the block during a worldwide pandemic (when there was no vaccine) to kick this smelly fatass out. They just didn't go to any rallies because that doesn't matter.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And yet voter turnout is lower in the US than anywhere else

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

Lower than "anywhere else"? No. Not only does turnout depend on the state and the type of election, other comparable countries have a similar range of participation.

Here's a table of the turnout for the last EU parliamentary elections. You can see it ranges from 22% to 88% depending on the country:

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/election-results-2019/en/turnout/

Now here's a map of turnout in the 2020 election. You can see turnout has a similar range:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Just like COVID!

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

Iowa should postpone the event.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate Trump too, but the title literally comes from a line in the article where it says he was joking. I know it's not JUST a joke, but we (anyone pretending to be actually fair and reasonable) have to stop cherry picking the most ridiculous line and putting it out of context on the title as clickbait.

[–] geegaw@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s not like he has ever played the “just jokes” card before. /s

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I'm just saying it's not material to his takedown and, of course, when RWM runs with a dumb line from a Democrat we hate it. Be the change.