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Whalen wasn’t Counterman’s first victim. He had been arrested for threatening two other women, saying he would “bash their heads in” and “rip their throats out.” Yet with the court’s new ruling, such threats would be perfectly acceptable because the “Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment requires proof of intent” in order to be considered “true threats.”

The majority decision, written by Justice Elena Kagan, found Counterman’s stalking — which caused Whalen to leave her job and move out of Colorado for personal safety — comparable to political parody or angry commentary made by protesters at demonstrations. Despite ample evidence that Counterman was intentionally stalking Whalen, the justices decided his “inadvertently threatening speech cannot be criminalized.”

Justices Roberts, Alito, Kavanaugh, Jackson, Sotomayor, and Gorsuch concurred. In essence, the […] liberal justices colluded with neo-conservatives to legalize stalking — supporting men’s “right” to harass over women’s right to feel safe. This is not just a question of the intent of language. During oral arguments, Chief Justice Roberts joked about Counterman’s cyber death threats to Whalen, and received laughter from other justices. (Slate, April 21)

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[–] Dionysus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the actual fuck… so that means threatening judges is legal then too, right? As long as it lacks proof of intent…

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm definitely not white or liberal enough to test that one.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I am. And male to boot.

Remember, these are only lifetime appointments. As soon as they're dead, they stop making decisions.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Haven’t you figured it out yet? The judges arrive at the conclusion and work backwards to arrive at the reasoning. They don’t care about contradiction.

[–] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Reminder that the Supreme Court is inherently undemocratic and none of these assholes can be fired.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Seeing stuff like this more and more I feel I ought to start carrying

[–] LearysFlyingSaucer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds like an opportunity to give them a taste of their own medicine, since they love parody/satire so much.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Not very surprising with this being the US court