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I'm starting to notice my hair is thinning a bit. Nothing drastic. Just natural aging. No, nothing unusual came up when I got my blood tests, my doctor didn't find anything wrong with me.

I'm just asking to see if any of you had good luck with any products. I know grafting is an option, and I also know that there are hair clinics which are very expensive etc. but I'm after an "at home" method.

Is there a product you would recommend?

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[–] esc@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm male and have done the whole gamut of hair regrowth options (graft + Finestride + Minoxidil both topical and pill forms). I'm pushing 40 and my hair is basically back to where it was in my early 20s.

In terms of how well each worked i'd rate them like this:

#1 Graft #2 Finestride #3 Topical Minoxidil #4 Pill Minoxidil

Obviously grafts are expensive but holy-cow do they work! Grafts are your only option to restore hair after a follicle has died (you can tell if an area of the scalp has dead follicles if the skin is smooth and shiny). You can cut the high cost by over 2/3s with some research and a trip to Turkey and I know several people that have done this with great results. There are entire flights of people just getting graft procedures there from the US and Europe. I opted for staying in the US and take the wallet hit for logistic reasons since I have small kids.

Finestride probably won't be an option for you since it attacks DHT which is what causes follicles to go dormant in men. I take 1mg per day and technically this is all I need to take to stop most of my scalp follicles from going dormant. Combining this and Minoxidil is what got me the best results since they work by different mechanisms.

Topical Minoxidil (Rogaine) is likely your best option. It's just a vasodilator so there's little worry about hormonal reactions. My wife has been using it though it's only been a few weeks and it takes months to really see results. It's kind of a pain to use, since you have to apply it twice per day forever basically. This is why I opted for the pill version. (Bonus fact: you can buy topical Minoxidil in bulk at Costco! A six-month supply is $50 at mine)

Pill Minoxidil is a bit of a mixed-bag. As I mentioned before I use it for convenience as I got tired of the topical. It puts significantly more of the substance in your bloodstream so side effects are more likely (though I haven't experienced any) and it's not as targeted to the scalp. It's basically a blood-pressure medication though the levels needed for hair regrowth are lower than for blood pressure. If I wasn't already taking Finestride I would opt for topical Minoxidil instead

[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Damn you’re making me wish I tried harder, I just gave up and shaved it all off, sigh :p

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 10 months ago

Wow thanks for sharing, that's a detailed answer!

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just curious, any idea what would happen if I took minoxidil even though I still have all my hair? Nothing? Even more hair growth?

[–] esc@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn't hurt anything AFAIK. It's just increasing blood flow to the follicles in your scalp (they go dormant and die due to a lack of blood flow). In fact, it's better to start using it BEFORE you notice hair loss because it can only help still-living follicles. Nothing can bring back dead ones without a graft.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

I think I'm good. All men in my family have kept their hair well into their 60's.

The price we pay is inability to grow a decent beard before we're 30-40ish

[–] sulunia@lemmy.eco.br 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a male. I eventually gave up and shaved the whole thing. Not really interested in taking meds the rest of my life or doing some uber expansive surgery to try and fix it. I do have a nice beard I take good care of though.

[–] ramirezmike@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

it's a tough choice but I made a similar one. I shave my head every week or so with clippers with the smallest guard. I don't like how shiny my head is sometimes but eh, overall it saves a lot of time and money. It's not a big deal but society makes it feel like it is, especially if you're a woman

[–] alcyoneous@midwest.social 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am not a doctor, but have had some results using minoxidil and Foligain’s Minox&Triox spray. As was pointed out in the other comment, hair follicles will start to die as you age (assuming you’re male) this is caused by DHT which is a result of testosterone breaking down. First the follicle goes dormant, and then dies. Depending on how advanced your thinning is, you can likely reactivate and save between few and most of the follicles. I hate recommending Reddit, but r/tressless is a good resource, but they pass around a lot of lingo so be prepared for that.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hmm, I'm female but I'll have a look around anyway. Thanks!

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Also don't bother buying the "woman" version of whatever product with minoxidil. It's usually more expensive and has a lower concentration of the active ingredient.

Granted you may need a lower dose as a woman but use less and each bottle lasts longer.

[–] alcyoneous@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago

Gotcha! I think tressless could still be a good resource then, but from what I recall it’s mostly men.

My mom and sister have both started using minox and have started to see some positive results, but I’m not sure of the biological process that would cause follicle dormancy/death in females, so I’m not sure what results you could expect. Also to note, minoxidil can cause some shedding at first, so your hair will look thinner for a few months until it starts to regrow more.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

Always an option :)

[–] corey389@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Until you have to take it off

[–] Wojwo@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

My wife and I are both taking the Nutrafol supplements and topical minoxidil. It's working, expensive, but it's working. Nutrafol has saw palmetto, which is basically herbal finsteride. Ymmv.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not a doctor, but isn’t the issue that the hair follicle dies? So to get more hair you would need to have more follicles implanted or something?

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 10 months ago

I'm not a doctor either obviously, but apparently hairs first start growing of a thinner diameter, shorter length, and eventually they die. So hair products ideally would help keep these follicles healthy so that they keep producing thicker hairs and not die prematurely. You are right though, if I want to increase the number of hairs I'd have to implant, but perhaps there are methods to improve what I still have.

[–] crozilla@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I’ve been on both Finasteride (prevents hair loss) and Minoxidil (grows hair) for decades, without noticeable ill effects. Very effective combo. πŸ‘

[–] EponymousBosh@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a trans man (FTM) and while I've gone for the "shave head and let nature take its course" option, a lot of trans men seem to really like finasteride because it doesn't have as many hormonal side effects as some other treatments. It's not an at-home method but I believe you can get it from a GP/PCP, you shouldn't need to go to a specialist. A lot of guys also seem to like minoxadil/Rogaine but you need to watch out if you have cats, because it's really toxic to cats.

[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

well, shit. I did not know that about cats. I'm entering menopause and my hair is thinning. I bought a box but hadn't started using it yet. Guess that's going on the buy nothing group.

edit: I also started taking keratin and biotin supplements. While it hasn't been long enough to notice results in my scalp, my eyelashes are getting long and curly!

[–] cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ooh that's good to know about your results with the keratin and biotin supplements. I took collagen for several months and didn't notice any huge results.

[–] Aluminum8637@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

I will preface this by saying its not for everyone. I know some ladies that went with wigs when their hair started thinning. One just does a topper, more or less like extensions but clips on the top of your head. The other full on accepted it and just buys cheap wigs off Amazon. They are better than Halloween wigs but cheaper than real human hair. There is a learning curve to picking out ones that aren't obviously fake and trimming and wearing them so that don't look like they are wearing a wig. There are videos on YouTube to help with all that. Also some hair stylists will trim them for you. It works well for her. Except for wanting to buy all the wigs in addition to all the shoes.

As an aside, if you are one to want to have vibrant unnatural colored hair it can be a better route to go than dying because the wigs don't fade or grow out. You can spend $20-40 on a fun colored wig that you just replace when it wears out or $100+ on getting your hair dyed and touched up.

[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

Maybe try to get into a Moogene Medi trial to try some CRISPR gene editing?