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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep and so are cat owners and anyone that has a stereotypically feminine hobby like knitting or crochetting. Sexism is bad for everyone.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On the bright side, as a tall bearded guy I get a lot of fun reactions when kitting in public. The silent confused onlookers are fun, but the enthusiastic middle aged women are the best.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As a fairly good sized very furry man myself, it is amusing to watch some "alpha male" stick man's brain short circuit as I drink the fruitiest, girliest drink at the bar while looking like I could crush their skull in one hand and drink a beer out of the other. They really don't know what to do with people that aren't insecure about their masculinity.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

My mum works at a bar and one of her regular punters used to be this highly stereotypical blokey-bloke who was massively homophobic, racist, etc. He was always at the bar, often talking about the gays n shit... So one day I decide to play absolute havoc with him. I turn up at the bar wearing all my loudest brony merch (the prize piece being a backpack in the shape of a ponified Doctor Who, complete with sonic screwdriver), step up to the bar right beside him and get my mum to mix up the pinkest cocktail and drink it through a straw from a nice tall, slim glass.

He looked at me, and all I had to do was give a little smile in his direction to make him practically flee to the other side of the bar. You could see the cogs in his brain whirring, trying to comprehend what effeminate weirdo he was looking at, knowing he couldn't say shit because it's the bartender's son. Fucking hilarious to watch him squirm.

He's dead now. No great loss, believe me.

[–] Mok98@feddit.it 3 points 10 months ago

*while drinking the previously mentioned fruity drink

[–] Mighty@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

yeah. fuck toxic masculinity. Hold strong brothers. be weak, be vulnerable, be soft, be the man you want to be.

[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What’s more masculine than being who you want to be no matter what others think

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah. Fuck those soft men.

Literally. Literally fuck them.

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[–] AngelJamie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 10 months ago

As a transfeminine vegan, this is oddly validating in the most sus way possible.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago

If someone is judging me for what I want to eat, I'm not the one with the masculinity issues.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Fellas, is it gay to try and be healthier?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Let it be. If dietary option correlates with inteligence, it will help thin out the herd by excess of cholestherol.

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Real men kill wildlife with their bare hands, eat it raw, and fuck the corpse.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

I mean, there's that association between manliness and "big eating", lol

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The irony here is that real men wouldn’t care, and the irony in that- is that you cannot define a “real man” as all men are real.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

you cannot define a “real man” as all men are real.

If we acknowledge gender, then we must acknowledge this idea by the same logic. Both are social constructs about the sexual identity of a person, disconnected from their biology.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Caring about perceived masculinity does not sound very masculine to me, so whatever. I'm confident enough to stand by my choices and others should too.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If someone verbally calls me not masculine for whatever choices I make I usually just respond with “isn’t the real pussy bitch thing to do is to judge others for their food?”. It’s not the best comeback, sure, but it does short out their brains a bit

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“Maybe you should try a salad too some time you fat fuck”

Or

“I dunno, it’s not very manly to care so much what morons think of me either.”

[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Caring about being manly and shitting on other guys for not being man enough is a sign that you're very insecure about yourself and/or your sexuality in my eyes.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thought shitting on other guys was called a Cleveland Steamer.

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[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 10 months ago

"I suppose that would matter, if I gave a shit what you think" was my retort when someone trwid judging me for my spiced rum and cranberry. They didn't like it, they also don't say shit when I order a hot chocolate.

[–] Sho@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The whole idea of assigning gender to foods or diets is bizarre to me.... a salad is feminine while steak is masculine? What about vegetables on a burger? Or a salad with steak in it?

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I see it a lot on tinder when women say in their profile they beed a real man that eats meat. How absolutely bizzare. There is bothing manly about buying meat. No one goes hunting

[–] emogu@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love bringing up the hunting aspect when people use the “but my ancestors ate meat” line. Like yeah they ate it after tracking it for a week with the strongest members of their community and killing it in a life or death struggle that tested the limits of their endurance. And even then they ate it sparingly so as to not have to go on another life threatening hunt for as long as possible. Not exactly the same as skulling bacon wrapped baconator burgers every night while binging Netflix from your couch.

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[–] PopShark@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I misread your typo as “breed” lol

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are whole languages that assign gender to every object.

[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, but me living in una casa (house, feminine) doesn't make someone make someone feminine by proxy

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well obviously not; being inside a female is super masculine

spoilerHopefully obvious sarcasm

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing more masculine than taking a big, burly, hairy beast of a man... then bending him over and fucking the shit out of him.

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[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know if you’re being serious but what does that have to do with anything? In Italian the word for “beard” is feminine, I can assure you nobody links it with femininity in any way. Just because the neutral gender doesn’t exist that doesn’t mean everything is actually gendered.

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[–] chiraag@mastodon.online 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

@Sho @Joleee Easy, intersex! Or, if we're going with gender, nonbinary!

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had a friend who truly believed in the whole "soyboy" thing and touted that people with "low testosterone" or who do "girly things" aren't "real men".

This motherfucker was the most unlikable, insecure, lonely man I've ever met. I was his only true friend until I finally got sick of the radical horseshit he began to openly support.

Don't take the opinions of stupid people with any value.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're always skinny-fat, too. Like if you were a meat titan or something I might consider the "Low T" argument at least logical. But when you're smaller than me and think your political affiliation makes you more masculine... Well.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nah. This dude was almost 300 lbs. One time whined to me about how liberals are going to try to "force the normalization of eating bugs in the US!" Like...... okay...? What?

I hit a breaking point eventually when he tried to be clever by not directly answering my questions about his ideology. I finally just said "This isn't a court of law, jackass. Just answer the damn question with a yes or no." Fucking coward couldn't even do that.

In the end, there's nothing more shameful to them than being compared to a woman. Which says a whole damn lot about their core beliefs.

Pathetic.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Eating hard, throbbing meat isn't vegan tho.

[–] DestroyerOfWorlds@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

gotta die with a wagu marbled heart to be a real man

[–] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

I was raised vegetarian, and as such it was normal to me and my brother. My mom did it for environmental reason because she is fucking awesome and I have decided to stay vegetarian as an adult.

It was around 10 when I started encountering this oddness. I would be at a friend's house, they would offer to give me food, I would say I'm vegetarian, and they would act like I was an alien or make comments about my parents being abusive to me. And then as I got older I got all these comments about me not being a man because I don't eat meat.

For fucks sake, being a man doesn't mean conformity. As far as I can understand, it means being brave enough to not give in to stupid gender norms and to find out who you are for yourself.

Of course the people who made the most asshole type comments were always right-wingers, too. What a surprise!

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Masculinity / insecurity

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

One of the best lovers I've ever had was vegan, I haven't seen him in over a year but whoo-EEE I still think about him every single day. That man fucked passionately.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Trying to live longer vs your stupid opinion. Gee, I wonder what's more important.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

In times of food scarcity it's important the male can eat the weaker babies, so the strong offspring can survive /s

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