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[–] Hossenfeffer 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

proposed changes to official figures that the ONS says will provide “an improved and more efficient health and social care statistical landscape”.

Ah yes, because the first thing I always think when reading about any deaths among the homeless is 'is this statistical landscape efficient?'

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago

Is that sociopath speak for “nobody cares about these deaths so why are we wasting money tracking them”?

[–] whelks_chance 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You should. If government level decisions are being made based on this data, we should know that it's sound. Otherwise people resort to using gut feel to solve problems.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

That ship has sailed, the stock market is just a measure of rich people's gut feelings and we've done wars over it.

[–] Hossenfeffer 1 points 10 months ago

I might first ask if it was accurate. Not efficient.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So the ONS is - in my opinion - pretty awesome. I think it's unlikely that they will be caving to political pressure. From what I can tell, they are basically saying the quality of the data sucks - they tried collecting it for 5 years and it didn't really work.

[–] GreatAlbatross 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Edit: I got the annual homeless survey and mortality figures confused.
So I deleted the comment. But that looks bad, so now I've added this explanation.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In dystopian North Vuvuzela, the corporations buy up all the housing and make people homeless, and then they bribe the government to pretend nobody is dying on the streets. Your boss can fire you for protesting against genocide and just like that, you're an invisible non-personyeonmi-park

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An official count of the deaths of homeless people would no longer be published in England and Wales under proposals to increase the efficiency of health data that campaigners have called “callous”.

The plan is included in a series of proposed changes to official figures that the ONS says will provide “an improved and more efficient health and social care statistical landscape”.

The homelessness charity Crisis, which is urging the government to make a U-turn, said the plan was “deeply concerning, and will only ensure this needless suffering continues out of sight”.

“The injustice faced by people dying on the street must not go unreported,” said Francesca Albanese, executive director of policy and social change at the charity.

Taylor said scrapping the statistic would be “a very callous thing to do at a time when we know there is an absolute crisis in homelessness and more people are dying”.

But Sophie Boobis, head of policy, said: “With homelessness and rough sleeping increasing, we should be investing further in this important data series rather than scrapping it, allowing ourselves the chance to prevent further premature deaths.”


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