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A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn't even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It's late here so I'll see how we proceed tomorrow.

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[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 365 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I'm sure everything will go fantastic.

[–] bootyberrypancakes@lemmywinks.xyz 133 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit will sure be a lovely site in a few months…

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May their shareholders weep.

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[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 88 points 1 year ago

[removed by reddit]

[–] sharpsphere@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

they're gonna love that sweet, sweet liability

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[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 160 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 1 year ago

I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

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[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 137 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well I guess its time to flood r/piracy with magnet links as soon as the new jannies open it.

[–] frozengriever@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also worth flooding them with ~~links~~ a map to where they can board the new ship.

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[–] riskable@kbin.social 107 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not sure about the optics of Reddit force-reenabling a subreddit devoted to piracy LOL

[–] VeeSilverball@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming soon: rebranding /r/piracy to "pirate cosplay"

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing but pictures of John Oliver in maritime garb.

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[–] arkcom@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn't go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they're even dumber than I thought.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 1 year ago (5 children)

automated message, sure. But they demoded just me, which is obviously very exact.

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[–] citable6704@midwest.social 97 points 1 year ago

1: Funny we were all in here like two days ago saying "they'll probably be happy to have the piracy sub gone"

2: Any member of the existing mod team that helps them is a fucking scab

3: Everyone else has made a good point about some potential liability issues of reddit the corporation wresting control of the piracy subreddit into their own hands

4: There are so many layers of irony with a corporation saying people need to have access to the community that tells them how to commit copyright infringement and then forcing that information into the open despite what its caretakers wish.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If reddit decides to moderate the Piracy subreddit directly, does that mean that they'll be responsible to respond to DMCA requests? If so, that's going to be a shitshow all in itself.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh shit, I didn't even notice what subreddit this was. Please PLEASE someone kick down their door (with legal actions) over this.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 51 points 1 year ago

Imagine fucking up that hard that pirates endorse DMCA

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[–] harcesz@szmer.info 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Its an industrial lockout so classically you either organize and strike even harder or burn down the capitalist pigs factory.

lol imagine being so desperate for the protest to come to an end that you are even targeting a community that engages in legally questionable activity.

I'm sure the process of determining what mods to DM was automated, but even so, it's still pretty funny to me.

[–] onepinksheep@kbin.social 75 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So basically, according to Reddit, they own everything on Reddit. That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit's responsibility. Bold strategy, cotton. They're basically waiving their net neutrality.

[–] Lorez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility.

Of course not, from reddit's ToS: "By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content." --https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-12-2021

[–] onepinksheep@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's their TOS. Their actions recently — namely undeleting user posts and comments — run directly counter to their TOS. They're essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.

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[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They went easy on you. Some overzealous mod permabanned my entire account for talking about Lemmy. Allegedly against their 'content guidelines'

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[–] Sal@mander.xyz 58 points 1 year ago

Well, good thing that you prepared well in advance and have already built a nice alternative.

Reddit is done

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I reinvited you in case you care.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago

cheers. Rejoined

[–] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This should somehow be made known outside the fediverse, to bring more people away from reddit and to here

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

please do share. I can only spread the word so much.

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[–] nusirojonel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was enough to get me to officially sign up here.

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[–] rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 year ago (28 children)

This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won't die month later.

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[–] pillems@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I say transfer as much as you can over here, then nuke the sub completely. The source of knowledge are mostly here now and everything else can be rebuild. We are pirates, we don't yield easily and can survive anywhere.

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[–] amansrevenger@feddit.de 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah in the antiwork subreddit my comments are instantly shadowbanned, my old comments in other subs show up , reddit is in major emergency mode apparently.

Good

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[–] AbsoluteUnity64@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think this calls for the subreddit to get rm -rf /*'d so that reddit gets nothing.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have even been restoring deleted posts. Fuck reddit

[–] macgrump@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Hmm.... wouldn't restoring deliberately-user-deleted content directly break a bunch of "right to be forgotten"-style laws that Reddit's technically obliged to follow? (GDPR, some California laws, etc)?

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[–] rgb_leds_are_love@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

r/wallstreetbets is probably preparing to short Reddit once they IPO 😂

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[–] Mastersord@lemmy.fmhy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Reddit is forcing open a piracy sub. I wonder how potential investors would feel about that?

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[–] lixus98@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, "please reopen the piracy sub so people can discuss piracy freely 🥺".
My bet is this is an automated message sent to big subreddits.

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, didn't figure they'd go so blatantly mask off this early on. They must be nervous.

Also dumb. Have they never dealt with pirates before? Cut off one head and two more grow to replace it. Good luck you shmucks.

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[–] ethane@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make sure you remove any and all bots created, and delete all the custom work you did. Reddit can probably restore it, but it'll take them time and effort to do so.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They can restore the bot accounts, sure, but they can't restore the servers that run those bot accounts.

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[–] A2PKXG@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Oh thank God, i first thought that the reddit navy entered Lemmy. i don't care about what happens on reddit, in fact, i'e be happy if they'd harm it.

But: can't mods nuke the subreddit history before they're demoded?

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Pretty ironic text. It's in part because of the trust put in moderators that they feel the need to protest / protest following that obligation.

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[–] Beardliest@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Lol, gtfo. Fuck that place anyway.

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