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Rachel Maddow reports on a letter signed by 19 Republican state attorneys general objecting to a proposed HHS rule that would protect the privacy of resident...

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[–] Col3814444@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Highly disturbing and obviously the next step in this Christian fascist bullshit - only a matter of time till they start rounding up and charging women who have EVER had an abortion with murder.

[–] Bdata71@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is just it Roe vs Wade was about privacy, that the government has no right to know what you do. By elemiminating roe vs Wade the Supreme Court has said that it is ok for the government to know what it's citizens are doing with out probable cause.

[–] j4yc33@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It was telegraphed super hard when they attacked Roe and not Casey but claimed it was about abortion, and in the ruling they managed to take aim directly at the 14th amendment, which they have slowly been doing in other cases.

It's not about abortion, abortion is an easy way to tug on heart strings, it's about absolutely destroying due process and privacy. Without due process and privacy there is no protection... really from the government at all.

[–] borkcorkedforks@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Privacy is a factor and part of the basis of the argument in Roe but that idea doesn't really hold up if you consider abortion to be a crime. An example in the medical setting is how some injuries have to be reported. It would be reasonable to point out how substance abuse isn't necessary reported but I doubt prolife people like that policy either.

To be clear I am pro-choice and there should be federal protections if not a full blown amendment for abortion, birth control, and other medical procedures but currently those protections are limited. That is how some states think they can do shit like demand medical records from other states. In general the idea of protections for privacy seems to be more limited than it should be.

For this particular issue the obvious thing outside of what should be legal would be that the states have no reason or jurisdiction to know anything. If there was a crime going on in that other state the demanding state has no grounds to charge anyone with anything. No crime was committed in their state even if a crime did happen. Said crime would be the business of the state in which the crime took place.

[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shit this gets tricky because I wouldn't want states to not talk to each other about domestic violence if a person is trying to buy a firearm in a new state...

[–] borkcorkedforks@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The background check is a federal thing with federal laws regulating it. The states are supposed to report things to the feds for things to show up on the NICS. There have been failures related to the NICS due to states or military not reporting things to the feds but they don't really report stuff to other states for the background check. And if states are asked about things it's the feds doing the asking. The FBI manages the background checks and NICS.

There is also a big difference between states sharing info about convictions and a random out of state police department, ag, or governor asking a hospital to violate HIPPA for something that isn't a crime in that state.

[–] Nhickz@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can demand all they want , but atleast in blue states they won't comply with releasing medical records to states that have no right to private information like that . They need to learn to keep their noses out of other peoples business , their was a time when that was the norm , sad to see the republican party devolve into having them noses so far up everyone else's asses , they can smell what you had this morning , and loving every minute .

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's not that simple. Most hospitals are in mega corps so the assholes can pressure the ones operating in their state to give them open access to the data in other states.

We need to vote out the party of hate greed and power at all levels. This will get worse until we are living in a handmaid's tale with a non functional environment.