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The predominantly ludicrous lawmaker from Georgia did Biden a solid this weekend, telling Republicans the Democratic president is fiendishly attempting to make people's lives better.

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (16 children)
[–] Mikelius@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (39 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Travesty that wasn’t taught in schools. Talk about based, it’s everything we’re fighting for now

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

Truer words...

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[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's not bad though all things considered. I don't know if we could do much better in Ukraine than how Biden has responded. His global policy approach is pretty impressive. He's had a few misses in domestic policy but overall I'd say he is doing quite well.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like him, but I’m old. I want more Dark Brandon. When he gets a second term, I think he’s gonna be more open and do something transformative. Maybe, I’m just being optimistic

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, I think you're right. I think he's going to do some sick flips on his bike.

[–] Matt_Shatt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Do a kick flip!

[–] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could be damned sure FDR wouldn’t have soft-pedaled any part of a pandemic response.

[–] Juviz@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he wouldn’t have stood for that

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If the Left had a clue about marketing, they would be producing some patriotic video showing the successes of FDR and LBJ and then tying that imagery to Biden. Americans winning against Nazis, New Deal, waving American flags, etc. Have the whole video being narrated by MTG's own words. Using the enemy's own attacks against them.

[–] Mayoman68@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (47 children)

If by "left" you mean democrats then they will not do this because it is not what their views are. They are ideologically as neoliberal as Reagan and Thatcher. This is part of why they don't do as good of a job opposing the far right as they could, because they only exist as long as their only opposition is unhinged far right politicians.

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did not Trump cause currently 25% of our national debt with his tax cuts? How the hell do they say this shit with a straight face

[–] Venomnik0@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

because they know people will believe their bullshit. Afterall, them gas prices were so high 🙄.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Biden wishes he was FDR.

But I'll give him a cookie for trying to cancel student debt, and then refusing to give up when SCOTUS decided to fuck us over.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

fuck us over

You fucked yourself over by not showing up at the polls 6 years ago at the numbers needed to keep Trump out of office.

Voting (and not voting) has consequences. You fucked around, then you found out.

(to be clear, I am using the generic "you" here, not trying to beat up on OP)

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yup. When your choice is between boring, middle-of-the-road corporatist and 100% concentrated evil, you must choose the less-destructive candidate for the good of the nation, even if they don't "do it" for you.

[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump won because people fell asleep, didn't care and Hilary was unlikable. Let's just hope that next year they keep that in mind when the polls open.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They thought Hillary was unlikable, so instead let's let a corrupt fascist win.... brilliant!1!!

I'd like to think the American people have learned their lesson, but let's be honest, we never learn.

Through recession and boom, war and peace, pandemic and climate change, there is one constant in this modern world... Americans will never learn from their past.

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[–] Odusei@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Republicans are such good hype men for Joe Biden, he might as well pay them.

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[–] FReddit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

What a fantastical waste of skin. Yet her cretin slaves vote for her.

[–] WalkableProgrammer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Its getting harder to pretend that a government that does nothing is a good idea

[–] skellener@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

🤦‍♂️Yes, she really is that stupid.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Honestly, at this point, I don't think it matters what they say; as long as they say it with a sneer, and pepper in words like "socialist," their base will foam at the mouth.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

She's only spouting self-goals to ensure everyone's attention is on her all the time. The irate reaction from Dems when she goes all racist+fascist grows her Republican base.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If only! Biden is maybe 5% of a Johnson at best.

..and there’s no way he compares at all to Roosevelt. That’s actually pretty insulting to FDR’s legacy.

[–] bestnerd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Eh Johnson was ok, but he also fully engaged Vietnam. When told to back down he started bombing runs in the north. Not a great legacy to have as it still has repercussions and veterans suffering from it like my dad and uncles. Not a great legacy to have to your name.

But agree on FDR, what a champion. We need fighters like him back in politics.

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[–] fidelacchius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Like him or hate him FDR was a great man. LBJ... Not so much.

Edit: u ppl dont understand the term 'great' in reference to historical figures. Got ppl whining about FDR and gooberment bad below. Great does not mean good or their actions were good.

[–] mycroft@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.ushistory.org/documents/economic_bill_of_rights.htm

FDR was an anti-semite, a bigot, and a racist. It doesn't change the great things he did, but he wasn't a great man. Our leaders are human, and in the 1940s that was the consensus of the ruling. The complete isolation and 2 class system he helped create by only granting whites GI loans and grants for education... He's responsible for the internment, coercion, and legal framework for stealing the property of over 200,000 Americans who looked like a reminder of our enemies... Completely snubbing our olympic medal winners, by ignoring Jesse Owens amazing wins and inviting white athletes to the white house instead... Not to mention perpetuating military unit segregation etc.

He was not a great man, but we were lucky he was able to make the changes Hoover had proposed. and to their conclusion in FDRs New Deal. Then the war breaking out meant he could turn the screws up and war production was able to finish the job even with scarcity et al, the production meant a better quality of life for americans.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

FDR was an anti-semite, a bigot, and a racist.

Serious question. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or trolling. Are you judging him based on 2023 standards or the 1930s? Because it's almost like comparing apples to oranges -- it was almost 100 years ago, and things that are considered blatantly racist by today's standards were often considered progressive by many at the time.

You also have to consider the fact that any kind of race relations, for lack of a better term, would not have been anywhere near as acceptable as it is today. Had he invited Owens to the WH or granted scholarships to black people, it could easily have caused a scandal that could have brought an end to his career. I'm not trying to justify it; I'm just saying that this is the reality of our society back in the 30s. Acceptance of minorities as equals in everyday life simply wasn't a thing back then.

A lot of people look back at history through a modern lens and act as if "they should have known better", without a full understanding that progress is incrimental and takes time. They also don't understand that even if people from back in that time wanted to do what we would consider today as the right thing, the reality of society at the time very likely would have prevented them from doing so.

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