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The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement (www.theverge.com)

submitted 10 months ago by btp@kbin.social to c/technology@kbin.social

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The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement, claiming the two companies built their AI models by “copying and using millions” of the publication’s articles and now “directly compete” with its content as a result.

As outlined in the lawsuit, the Times alleges OpenAI and Microsoft’s large language models (LLMs), which power ChatGPT and Copilot, “can generate output that recites Times content verbatim, closely summarizes it, and mimics its expressive style.” This “undermine[s] and damage[s]” the Times’ relationship with readers, the outlet alleges, while also depriving it of “subscription, licensing, advertising, and affiliate revenue.”

The complaint also argues that these AI models “threaten high-quality journalism” by hurting the ability of news outlets to protect and monetize content. “Through Microsoft’s Bing Chat (recently rebranded as “Copilot”) and OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Defendants seek to free-ride on The Times’s massive investment in its journalism by using it to build substitutive products without permission or payment,” the lawsuit states.

The full text of the lawsuit can be found here

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[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

This is a totally valid argument. Looking forward to see how this progresses.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do not care that the write-anything machine got there by reading every book in the library. How else was it going to happen?

No kidding it can sound like Tolkien if you ask it to sound like Tolkien. You, the person reading this, can presumably do that as well. And if you can then it's because you read his copyrighted works. You dastardly villain.

But if you, a human person, actually do that, and then publish the result... yeah, you might be in trouble. That is the only point the NYT has, here. If some other business is ripping them off then it doesn't matter how they ripped them off. If it turns out some article they point to was written by an intern or an editor, that doesn't change the nature of their complaint against how the company is using AI. It is the application that is the problem.

Similarly, you can get an image network to render Shrek on a tricycle. The fact it can do it is fine. It'd be impossible to have a draw-anything machine that somehow draws anything except copyrighted characters. But if you stick that on a t-shirt and get sued, you can't blame the image network.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I think part of the issue is that OpenAI didn't pay for the NYT content it used to train ChatGPT.