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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

disposables shouldn't exist altogether.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been vaping for nearly a decade now but I agree with getting rid of these disposables. Totally bad for the environment.

And since these are the ones that teens are said to be using in schools it might kill 2 birds with one stone.

[–] fruity@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My only worry is that once they start regulating things, they'll fuck up non disposables too somehow. Like they did with the max nicotine level and the tank capacity.

[–] PrinceFidget 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really confusing. I swear they all used to be reusable with refill bottles, then at some point they just changed to disposable.

Honestly, you would think it would be easy to push refillables... like that would sell just fine. My suspicion is, like ink printers, they don't want people using other liquids.

[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

In the long run the disposable ones work out to be more expensive which means they make more profit.

But it's hard for the average consumer to notice that because it takes a while to build up the price.

It's like the difference between paying for a subscription £90 once a year, Vs paying £10 a month, for 12 months.
Obviously you are better off with the £90 option but it feels like a larger amount if you don't pay attention.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have a friend in Germany that only buys vape liquid and stuff when he visits the UK because they taxed them to oblivion where he is

[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That would be the concern. The "for the children" argument is often how governments open the door; after they establish a precedent (disposables are bad) they can start scaling up to other aspects using the same argument.

"Children are buying vape stuff in pretty colors!" "Children like the pretty vapor!" Etc.

[–] pumpsnabben@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really like these disposables but I totally understand why they shouldn't be available.

I've been informed that these should be treated like batteries when recycling.

[–] rmuk 16 points 1 year ago

Well, they do have batteries so, yeah. That's the issue I have with them: they're made of a finite, fairly precious and environmentally damaging material but the manufacturers specifically sell them as disposable. At least a McDonalds carton dumped on the roadside will dissolve to harmless mush in a few months, but disposable vapes won't; they're going to landfill, or down drains into rivers, or exploding in compactors and the manufacturers know it.

[–] Archive@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re really handy in a pinch but some people seem to only buy disposables. If you’re going to start vaping then you’re much better off getting a proper battery rather than burning through disposables.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've become pretty convinced over the last few years they should just clamp down on all non-refillable devices. I have a feeling this would stop a lot of teen vaping, because messing about with coils and liquids takes any glamour out of the thing

[–] rmuk 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The EU are introducing new laws that require batteries be easily user-replacable in devices like vapes. I'm hoping that'll kill them off if nothing else.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just imagine the malicious compliance. Replaceable batteries but not liquid

[–] SmellyHamWallet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've picked them up for a night out, but just so I don't lose my proper one. They're also very strong at a base level, they say 2% but a lot of people don't realise that's 20mg. My usual is 3mg as I've cut down, so I feel that the next day.

[–] tourist@community.destinovate.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What gets me is when I see ads for disposables costing less than the individual pods, which still aren't great, but economically it seems bizarre that a whole disposable unit with a battery can be cheaper to make.

[–] Blackmist 3 points 1 year ago

The wonders of China.

Although I think the main draw is convenience and variety over cost.

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I always prefer disposable-sized vapes, but seriously just get one with replaceable pods. I might spend 60 dollars every two months buying juice and a few packs of coils. The Vaporesso XROS for example is great and I manage to get 4 or 5 days out of each coil replacement.

[–] Mex 1 points 1 year ago
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