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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 79 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably the best line I have read in any article this month:

I drove back and forth to a bookstore job in an ancient Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais so apocalyptically derelict that when I got pulled over for a busted taillight, the lady cop fixed me with sad eyes and asked "Is everything OK with you?"

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 50 points 10 months ago

This article is peppered with em.

The reason those companies, and not Tesla, know how to build cars that (in general) can drive from here to there without dropping a wheel or bursting into flames is not that they are staffed by a bunch of centenarian Lore Wizards who learned the secrets of auto manufacture back in nineteen-aught-dickity and now hide this sacred knowledge in a walled mountaintop abbey.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (5 children)
[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 57 points 10 months ago

Did you read it? It's an opinion piece that references the Reuters report, and several articles, and is an absolute BLAST to read.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How on earth did you reach the conclusion the blog is spam?!

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They couldn't even be bothered to replace the default WordPress favicon

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

If you just go to any of the actual information pages about the blog, you'll very quickly see it's a genuine thing.

[–] doofusmagoo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Respectfully, Defector is about the furthest thing from a spam blog that you'll find on the internet, my dude/lady.

It was formed a few years back by writers fleeing the sinking ship that was Deadspin.

I'd encourage you to check out some of their other articles and judge for yourself.

It pretty clearly states in the first paragraph that it’s a blog. It’s okay to post blogs. Moreover, the author specifically encourages reading the quoted Reuters report:

The Reuters piece is quite long, and earns its length with an incredible wealth of damning receipts, including internal Tesla communications making clear that the company has known about its own shoddy work for a long time, even as it deceived investors, regulators, and drivers. I urge you to read it for yourself.

[–] dsco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ExLisper@linux.community 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

IDK, even since Fight Club we know that cars have defects that kill people and the car companies send Edward Norton to check if it's cheaper to pay to the victims or go to court. This is nothing new. I wouldn't get to worked up about it until I've seen some statistics saying that for example Tesla drivers get into more accidents than other drivers or something. O, wait...

[–] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

So it's OK because other companies have been shitty, besides Tyler Durden warned us?

But I give you credit, this is the first time I've seen Fight Club unironically used as a source outside the Incel community.

[–] Introversion@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

Fuck me, that’s good blogging!

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seems more like a hit piece on tesla than an article describing actual issues that have statistics associated with it.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

we're not allowed to say that around these part.....but yes it definitely is.

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

I just don't understand why so many people shit on the companies, customers and employees for something a borderline retarded CEO says or does.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean wouldn't any article about Tesla build quality come off as a hit piece due to how shit the build quality is?

They ain't doing anything good in there.

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, if the only thing they were talking about was just the build quality. However they didn't decide to stop there, nor in my opinion, did they keep it professional at all. The article reads more like the opinion piece of someone who's got a personal vendetta against tesla or the ceo rather than someone judging a vehicle on its quality of construction.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

“I’m just gonna make a car out of cardboard box cuz I refuse to be told how to do it by a b-b-b-BOOOMER!”

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

What amazes me is this is a luxury brand of car, which should have a higher quality of part. And its built like a badly assembled kit car.

[–] TheMusicalFruit@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The bloom was off the rose pretty early with people that know about cars. I remember seeing a video of an engineering team disassembling one a few years after they launched and finding all sorts of crazy assembly problems that you’d think would have been worked out by then. I’m talking about bad welds, some not in the correct place, and random bolts rattling around in door panels, that kind of stuff. I give them credit for capturing the collective imagination on what an electric car could be and championing them as cool. But they still have a lot of work to do to catch up in the quality and reliability realm compared to established car companies. The fact that they have significantly less moving parts yet still haven’t been shown to be more reliable than a lot of ICE vehicles says something.

[–] Jeknilah@monero.town -1 points 10 months ago

It makes them too much money. When they're charging tens of thousands for a battery replacement, and the only way to fix the car without getting banned from the charging network is to go to the dealership... this will never get fixed.