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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by aranym@lemmy.name to c/chat@beehaw.org
 

Heard it was DDoS attacks, which seems pretty likely.
Another benefit to using a smaller instance (or hosting your own), you don't have to worry about this stuff

Hopefully they don't try to mess with Beehaw, y'all are too nice :)

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[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemdro.id 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even more of a reason to

1 - have an account on multiple instances

2 - support multiple instances. Can't take everyone down at once!

[–] lemmylefty@geddit.social 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

First account: vlemmy.net - went down 2 days later Second account: lemmy.world - has been DDOSed twice and hacked once the week after making the account Third account: this one.

Which instance do you want me to tank next? Apparently I’m pretty good at it!

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lemmylefty@geddit.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] sarsaparilyptus@lemmy.fmhy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It seems like you're expressing something about Lemmygrad that isn't enthusiastic and unconditional endorsement. Clearly you are a reactionary alt-right racist Nazi, and probably (definitely) a CIA plant.

[–] lemmylefty@geddit.social 9 points 1 year ago

Call me a CIActi, because I am dry and prickly and dependent on government funds to survive.

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[–] Katzastrophe@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The greater good!

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lemm.ee! The lead admin is top notch, he contributes directly to the lemmy codebase and implements his working mods there before they get accepted. He was also one of the key helpers in the first lemmy.world hack (which incidentally lemm.ee was immune to).

[–] substill@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think it’s in anyone’s best interests to encourage mass users to any single instance. That “everybody get in this same room” behavior is part of the problem.

Lemmy and the fediverse depend upon users distributing themselves across many reliable instances. More users in a single instance equals more demand on that individual server and more vulnerability based on that single server’s status.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While I agree with that, lemm.ee doesn't seem to be dominating much. It isn't even top 3 - the top 4 in my understanding is lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, beehaw.org and sh.itjust.works (in the order they fell out my brain). So I don't feel guilty cheerleading for it, at least not right now.

However in terms of user experience, lemm.ee has been by far the most reliable for me. Afaik it was the first to have a truly stable version of v0.18 (he didn't upgrade right away, but implemented a modified version of a release candidate of v0.18.1).

[–] SuperSecretThrowaway@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does he have a way to fund his lemmy instance? I'd love to help support someone like that who contributes to the codebase

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep! He has two methods I'm aware of currently, his Github and Ko-Fi. I asked him which he prefers, he said Github has slightly lower fees.

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 8 points 1 year ago

Not as extreme. But similar experience. Joined beehaw, then they defederated from some of the main instances I subbed.

Joined another one and it had a 2 day outage.

Just built my own and use the other accounts for specific stuff (ie: beehaw is dedicated to subs only in that instance now. )

[–] stardust@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

threads.net

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[–] monerobull@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

can't down everyone at once

Well not until the next catastrophic federation bug gets discovered and abused 💀

[–] 37219@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Federation will prevail! 🖖

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[–] substill@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A communications disruption can mean only one thing: invasion.

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I get this movie reference. We need a baseball bat and a glass of water!

[–] TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could this be related to that massive hacking attack from earlier, where a lot of the big instanes were hacked?

[–] substill@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t know man, I was just using a Star Wars quote for shits and giggles.

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[–] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are we also getting DDoSd? I'm getting constant timeouts and json errors here over the last one hour or so.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Beehaw was also down for me. Ended up opening a new account on Lemmy.ca since Beehaw seems to be taken down so often :(

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The weird ones are the every hour on the hour outages. It seems like there's some scheduled task on Beehaw's server that's restarting lemmy

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's kind of annoying. I really like Beehaw but it sucks to get connection errors regularly

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Large instances need to get Cloudflare DDoS protection because it will only get worse.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This does wonders at keeping the instance up, but breaks the mobile apps and federation functionality sadly ☹️

[–] aranym@lemmy.name 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My instance is using Cloudflare and has no issues with federation or mobile apps (I sent this reply with Connect).

Assuming a standard caching configuration, those services should not break under Cloudflare.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry I should have been clearer in my original comment - the DDoS mitigation features of Cloudflare specifically affect the apps and federation, so as long as you aren't under attack it's business as usual

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[–] BitOneZero@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Lemmy.ml became totally unreachable 15 minutes before Lemmy.world went all "Error" page. Distant Early Warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrDj5XvZXX4

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[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 11 points 1 year ago

One thing I like about lemmy and the fediverse-

I honestly wouldn't know those instances were down, if it was not for people posting about it, lol.

[–] yarn@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Hello small instance friends :)

[–] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope lemmy.world comes back.

[–] lunarshot@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Two sites went down. I'm hoping for one to come back up. Read between the lines.

[–] BitOneZero@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It is sort of responding now, slow, but better than it was 15 minutes ago.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago

I always access from a smaller instance. I didn't even notice I was looking at older content.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Beehaw was having a lot of 502s over the last few days. Not sure if DDoS or something else, though.

[–] mutant@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i bet there's a lot of people are regretting deleting their reddit accounts lmfao

[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why?

There are over a thousand lemmy instances. Two of them are being DDOSed. The rest are more or less fine.

That's part of the beauty of the fediverse. You're not locked in to anything. If one instance goes down, you can just access it through another.

I would think that the most notable thing that will come out of today is a spike in new accounts at a bunch of other instances. The fediverse as a whole will just keep chugging along.

[–] tal@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

You don't even need an account if you just want to browse.

[–] mccord@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeesh lmfao'ing in every post, maybe book a visit with a proctologist.

[–] numbscroll@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Love that I can hop over to kbin (or vice versa) when this stuff happens.

[–] ko4la@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

plot twist: the ddos was organized by beehaw

[–] aka_oscar@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those pollen-addict buckeroos are always up to something. smh when will it end

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[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

The time of lemmy named domains is over and the reign of Feddit has begun!

[–] RoundSparrow@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lemmy.ml is back up!

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