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It was one of those few 3rd party Apps that still worked. Apparently dev was in talks with Reddit in obtaining Paid-API-Access, but now they cut off his API-Access mid talks without informing him

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[–] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 464 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Another sign Reddit was never interested in having third party apps at all. They want all mobile traffic through their own app.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 194 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Which would be fine at all, you know. It's their platform and their servers, and they can do what they want.

Except for the fact that the official app is several orders of magnitude more primitive, inefficient and uncomfortable to use. Even more so for Android than for iOS

[–] ryno364@lemmy.world 165 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also for the fact that they lie through their teeth and can’t even give the decency of honest business.

Why the fuck would we trust these idiots with our data/hard work?

[–] BrudderAaron@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Which is why people should scrub their comments. A lot of people are holding on to "The good times." with their posts and comments. It doesn't matter if reddit can technically undo the work, I'm still going to check and make sure it stays gone. Without that content, reddit is nothing.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

To be honest, I respect that position, but I don't hold enough contempt against them to do that, and on the other hand I do value Reddit as an archive of online knowledge and debate. I can just leave it if I don't want it in my life anymore. I would like any comments I made on specific topics I'm knowledgeable about to be accessible and used as reference in the future.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Who gives that platform value? Who fills it with content for them to profit off of? Who moderates it for them, for free?

Users.

And they should be able to interact with the site they built up however the hell they please.

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except that they were very friendly to third-party app developers for 15 years and are now claiming they didn't know third-party apps existed.

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[–] nocturne213@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used the Android app for a long while before I found out there were 3rd party apps. By the time I tried them I was so used to the horrible Reddit app I Just stuck with it. My biggest gripe with it was that they would make huge sweeping changes that changed how the app worked with no warning, no way to go back, and you Just had to change the way you browsed.

Then when I switched to an iPhone every time I tabbed out of the app (to read a link or whatever) then went back into Reddit the app would scroll me all the way to the top of whatever feed I was reading at the time.

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[–] jaybirrd@lemmy.world 242 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes another prime example of them working with those who were willing to work with them. That's what they said, right?

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what, are you calling them a liar? speddit would never lie!

[–] Badtouchspez@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I sure as fuck will. As the genuine spez, that likes molestation. It’s true, spez likes it. I am qualified to say I fucking will.

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[–] TheSaneWriter@lemm.ee 148 points 1 year ago

Unfortunate but predictable. Reddit and u/spez have decided that third-party apps are going to die, and nothing is going to stop them. The "talks" they were offering to interested devs were always just a show, as this clearly demonstrates.

[–] No_Me_Jodas@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago

Seems like you can’t trust a guy who edits user comments behind the scenes and lies about being extorted.

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 109 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How fucking shitty. It just proves that everything spez said about negotiating with developers in good faith was bullshit.

[–] Sarcastik@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You're right but the leaked conversations between Reddit and RIF pretty much confirmed that for us months ago. Spez had zero intention of allowing 3rd party apps to exist. Next on the chopping block, old.reddit.com

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[–] Gru@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] leapingleopard@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

mlmym.org acts like oldreddit, someone linked it further down in the comments, and it's changed my world.

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That goes to show it was never about gettimg paid to use the AI, it was just to shut down all 3rd party apps. Even those who wnated to cooperate

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[–] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My prediction: Reddit is moving toward a YouTube-esque format.

They are going to monetize by allowing creators to make money from their content. This is why they're getting rid of awards. Of course, they'll take a cut which is probably why they're going toward this model.

They have also been moving toward more detailed, identifiable profiles as well.

They're trying to make the new social media.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This will just turn the site into a massive shill fest full of people pandering and not to mention huge scale botting. AIs will be churning shite out.

Real quality will go elsewhere.

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[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the problem of starting internet businesses without monetisation planning. They start by doing whatever gains users, and then when they want to be profitable they must try to change whilst holding on to the users.

The exact opposite to how businesses ought to be grown.

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[–] RealJoeBiden@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's why I'm here. Fuck Reddit.

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[–] Gatopardo@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (9 children)

So sad. I'm here because of that. Hopefully this community grows fast.

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[–] Kwalla@lemmy.todayyoutomorrow.me 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really hope he's able to migrate his app to Lemmy and continue to make a living. I would happily pay again.

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[–] ken27238@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

Man Reddit is really all in on the “any PR is good PR”.

[–] Zella111@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm here because Joey went down too. I stayed as long as Joey worked but I won't use the reddit app. I hope they can pivot to creating something for Lemmy.

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[–] gargantuanprism@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Wow, RIP. One of the few apps I actually paid for 💔

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Man, Joey was my favorite one for sure

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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

RiF migrant here. Howdy, y'all! Pull up a chair.

[–] Misfit_Lamb@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Gutted about this... thought was just a technical issue yesterday then got the message today directing me to Lemmy so here I am. Reddit is an asshat.

[–] haywire7@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Joey refugee here. I was registered via vlemmy but that died too so I've been ousted from two things I like this week.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See, here's why you don't talk to Reddit about their paid API access. They'll just fuck you over regardless.

[–] dudebro@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Never negotiate with your abuser."

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[–] Kaksdee@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally started using lemmy after Joeys API was cut off.

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[–] Wickedlucky214@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

And this is why I came here today. Bye, Joey!

[–] wmrch@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I tried all the reddit apps I got aware of and Joey was just miles ahead of the pack.

There have been so many customization settings, custom themes, well-impoemented navigation features like skipping posts/comments with the volume keys of the phone etc.

I'm currently using 8 apps for Lemmy and none of them seems even close (yes, I know these are mostly alpha releases).

I really hope the joey dev creates a Lemmy client.

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[–] roht@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joey was one of the best, free Reddit apps for Android. It's a shame they did him in anyway even though he tried to cooperate. Between just using a browser for Lemmy and using the official Reddit app (which is slow, laggy, and has ads), I'd stick to the browser.

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[–] Mathusalem@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago

it's sad Joey was a great app.

[–] Gamey@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I wonder if "upcomming apps" means Fediverse!

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Joey was my go to reddit app, and I'm really sad to read about the developer stressing out. They seemed pretty cool, so it sucks that reddit is doing this to them.

[–] quicksand@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] brkewa@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I'm here because Joey got shutdown. It was a great app!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Welcome to all the new users in this thread!

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've personally sent Joey developer the email suggesting Joey for Lemmy. 🫶

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[–] gk99@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't wanna be mean to the guy who effectively just lost his job but like, come on bro. Reddit wasn't exactly hiding their negative intentions, outright lies, and lack of respect.

[–] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago

He said it's his only source of income, so he's probably been busy trying to gain as much time as he could from Reddit while simultaneously trying to work out his finances and such. And if Reddit was still talking to him, it's like dangling a carrot. The dev had some hope before the rug was swept out from under him.

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