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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] notroot@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Answer: Lift my lifetime permanent ban. Heheh

I jokingly commented "I hope it was full" in a thread about Ted Cruz (aka Zodiac Killer) getting beaned by a beer can during a parade (or sumpin).

That was the last straw for the mods! How dare I "Promote or advocate violence" LOL

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[–] RoaringSilence@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Speaking of me, nothing. I erased my history, deleted my account.

Reddit should go his path chosen, don't hold back travelers.

Get rid off all the trolls, bots and shills. I know that's nearly an impossible task, but I'm tired of seeing the same thing posted five times a month, good content getting hidden and people arguing for the sake of arguing.

[–] cerevant@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is kind of like the Wizards of the Coast / OGL situation for me - just enough to make me consider the alternatives, and realize that the alternatives are a better long term solution.

Reddit has become overrun with crypto scam spammers, and they don't appear to be making any attempt to control it. We'll see if the fediverse can do a better job.

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[–] aaron@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

It couldn't. The enshittification has long since begun.

[–] sekhethsis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I am the founder of a mental health support subreddit, so I kinda permanently tied to Reddit to continue to provide support there. I did however make the same community on Lemmy. World, so shall see what the future holds. I will probably have to be active on both

[–] BlackCoffee@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I won't be back honestly.

The fact that they are "willing" to go this route is the writing on the wall.

I also find it so interesting that people and reddit themselves see the platform as "Social Media" and development is has been going that way.

I see it as a link aggregator and forum and treat it as such. I just want to find information, comment about it and have it as dense and "clean" on my screen as possible. but The fact that it looks like another Facebook and instagram clone and it is gonna be the only way to experience it is a hell no from me.

[–] Echolot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would probably have to drop their plans of going public for me to reconsider. Of course I know this is never ever gonna happen in this reality…

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going public never made any sense to me, it feels so short sighted as whenever you sell more stock you lose more control of your company and stock holders have literally no interest in seeing your company succeed if your company starts failing their just going to bail on you and invest somewhere else

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[–] rubythulhu@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

I switched to Reddit when I made a decision I'm done with the big corpo like Meta and I deleted all my social media accounts including WhatsApp. I got Signal and convinced all my friends and family to do the same so now I have a fully functioning social circle there. I moved from Reddit to Lemmy now because I realised that Reddit is more or less the same - the answer to most of the internet issues atm is open source/decentralised services. So I moved here. Still missing a lot of stuff from Reddit though - mostly thriving meme communities...

[–] kethali@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

At this point - nothing. I've been less and less happy with that place lately, and this is just the final push. Hopefully I'll find a lot of the same things either here, or somewhere else, or just not at all I guess.

[–] uplink@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I have seen Reddit make a lot of changes over the years that have continually shifted it away from what I wanted it to be. I have been hoping for a long time that something would supplant reddit, probably for most of the time I've been using the platform. If it is really still not profitable after all of that, then I doubt that they can make meaningful positive changes that I want and be in the black. So to answer your question, no, there's probably nothing they can do to get me to stop seeking replacements.

[–] Elbullazul@lem.elbullazul.com 7 points 1 year ago

I think the platform is too far gone to regain my trust, I don't think I'll ever go back

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Well, I've been wanting to find a new forum for a while. Reddit no longer resembles what I joined back in the days.

This was just the kick in booty I needed to get on with it. And a ton of alternatives has been laid out before me, so might as well go check some of them out.

[–] Dandroid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

All they need to do is make RIF not shut down. Whatever that takes. I'm not using their shitty app.

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either free access to the API for mobile app developers or allow mobile app developers to run adds to pay for API access at a price corresponding to the actual costs involved with providing the API access...

And fix the linking "bug" they created 5 years ago to try to force old.reddit site users to migrate to the new shitty reddit site by breaking links on old.reddit.

But neither of those will happen... and I'm actually happy about that. I've been growing more and more dissatisfied with Reddit for years, and if they decide to wreck it they can wreck it. I will miss what it used to be, but I won't miss what it has become.

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh Lemmy feels like all the kind side of Reddit I remember from like r/whatisthis and r/explainlikeimfive and it feels like what Reddit was for me when I joined bout 10 years ago

[–] Fapper_McFapper@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember the Voat migration? Except this time it looks like it’s all nice people leaving Reddit. Which of course means if enough sane and nice people leave reddit, what will be left? Just bots talking to bots and a bunch of angry people.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.house 7 points 1 year ago

I am running PowerDeleteSuite on both my reddit accounts as i type this. My basic edit is that due to reddits api changes i no longer feel welcome, have moved to lemmy, and support the blackout. I will give a few hours to settle and then delete both accounts

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Go back to being open source, become a non-profit.

Basically not gonna happen.

The profit motive will just recreate this same scenario no matter what they promise.

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[–] manifex@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like relationships and jobs - once I'm out... I out.

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[–] Fellangel@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

I just deleted my Reddit account. I hope Lemmy and the federated system becomes a great replacement. I have found myself many times quite "over" Reddit. The community has grown polarized and has given way and voice to reflect some of the worst of humanity. I try to keep an open mind and compartmentalize the rest. For me that was the first strike. Beyond that, this move to monetize Reddit by taxing the community that made it what it is today just let's me know they have forgotten who they are and that without us they don't have a site. I'm sure some will continue to use Reddit. I won't be over of them and while I know I don't matter much against millions of users, but I know that many more than just me are sick of the same things and our voice matters. In short, nothing will bring me back. If someone is willing to do this to begin with, then they're willing to do it again.

[–] John_Coomsumer@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Step 1: A backpedal to their roots, openness and FOSS leaning development. Allow reasonably cheap API access that still gives them some money from the AI trawlers but allows 3rd parties to function, stop blasting me with gigantic notification on my mobile browser to use the terrible official app every time I view a thread (or even literally forcing you off the page period if its 'nsfw' content like elden ring threads, apparently??) Step 2: Focus on genuine usability. The official app is DOG ASS. The "new" reddit experience is a nightmare compared to old reddit. Videos STILL don't load and run properly, after literally 5 or 6 years. Straight up embarrassing stuff for software developers. Step 3: Take a genuine stance on moderation and content. Either direction; free-for-all where only the clearly illegal is removed, or tightly moderated with global rules. This current system is a completely broken mess, you'll get the_donald literally breeding terrorists in the open for years, but I can't use call another user an "asshole loser" without getting kicked out of a subreddit? I just dont think the weird federalist style subreddit system works all that well. Global, clear, enforced rules.

If they did these things I think I would return. The real crazy thing is that they could do all of these things and still increase profitability. If the official app was actually good, more people would use it, and the massive amount of calls home and data collection it does would be way more profitable. Jump on the bandwagon, make a reddit LLM chat-bot that is fed only on reddit threads, it would probably be genuinely decent. Or at least make reddit search work, you would siphon off a ton of google search traffic. you know. innovate, at all, even a little. The money would come in. But not AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE I WANT TO SCROOGE MCDUCK THIS SHIT levels, and thats what the ownership and (soon to be) shareholders will push them towards. So none of this will happen, sadly.

[–] Subito@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is literally nothing.... I just used Reddit for r/nosleep. I'll live without it. It's permanently erased any goodwill it had with me.

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[–] crossmr@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They need to fix everything. I can barely report anything on the site without being banned for it. The admin come around later and fix it and apology, but because that's happened so many times, safety's first response is permanent ban which means I have to use an alt to contact them and get them to fix it. Despite the fact that they told me several times all the suspensions and warnings would be removed, they aren't. I reported something for being a duplicate a couple weeks ago (it was there was another copy on the front page of the sub, and it was one of their report reasons) and came back an hour later to both a permanent ban notice for 'report abuse' for that, and also the fact that my account wasn't actually banned because someone had come through and unbanned me. The site is bordering on being beyond repair at this point.

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[–] honk@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

There is one thing they could do: Just federate with lemmy. :D:D:D

[–] Undefined0968@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Bring Aaron Swartz back from the dead and put him in control

/r/Tedwasright in that tech devolves into a tool of abuse. Only thing I can think of it to keep innovating to outrun the machine

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