General Discussion

I wonder how many people created an alt and just wound up using it more than their original.

Honestly excellent news, there should be no center to this new universe.

If everyone already here just stays here, I'd be happy. We've already hit a nice place.

Lemmy is not a business, so it doesn't necessarily need a constant influx of new users. Sustainability is based on user experience, not endless growth.

Edit: actually last sentence kind of dumb. Sustainability based on keeping the servers running and user experience.

I imagine any time a given server's quality drops, people will just move to another one. I had login issues for a few days on lemmy.world and started using lemmy.ml.

I think its a good thing, healthy for the ecosystem that there's not only redundancy where one site having a moment doesn't kill everyone's ability to use lemmy, and also provides a clear incentive for individual servers to provide good service.

I haven't fully settled on a "home" instance yet.

I bounce around between Lemmy.world, Beehaw and Kbin the most. As things stabilize with the various software updates and federation between instances gets worked out I will probably settle on one, but I could also see jumping to more niche instances (really hoping a sports-related instance like Fanaticus takes off) being the long term strategy, too.

Did you just call it the "Threadiverse"?? dafuq?

Still not sure I get how this all works. I am using the Memmy app. Created a login with lemmy.world. How do I see threadiverse? Can I do it from Memmy? I tried to search threadiverse on Memmy but there’s nothing there. Am I doomed to never fully comprehend this?

I created an account on lemmy.world before I'd understood how the Fediverse works. Later on I went and searched for a smaller instance that's better aligned with my interests and whose moderation I was happy with, and I ~~abandoned lemmy.world~~ (Edit: Bad choice of words here. I still subscribe to communities on lemmy.world; I just stopped using the account I had created there). It had served its purpose well as a landing zone for a Fledditor like me.

I'm not surprised. Lemmy.world seemed to be the default, but you're now seeing subs from Reddit coming over with their own instances and others realizing it might be better to make their own instances with blackjack and hookers.

They're probably leaving due to all the problems this instance has been having. I've only just recently been able to log back in after several days of it just refusing to let me in. Although I'm not sure if it's an instance issue or a Lemmy issue since mastodon.world has been working just fine with no issues.

I think users are jumping over to instances that more fit their personal values. Its why I left lemmy.world and created unilem.org. An instance for no defederation. It might not be for everyone. But i prefer to be able to access everything in one place and do thr moderation/blocking on the user level.

Probably because lemmy.world stops working with half the apps every other day. Some days I can only use it with Thunder, other times only Jeroba, other days it works with every app except Liftoff. There's just no predictable pattern to it and I've found myself just avoiding lemmy.world lately because I don't want to type out a 3 paragraph comment just to find that my app isn't logging in to lemmy.world today.

heh, would you look at that. It won't let me post this comment on Jeroba so I had to log in with a browser. This is fuckin bullshit. I'm going back to sh.itjustworks until this gets fixed.

if lemmy.world won't let me freely use my vpn i'll seek out another server.

Lemmy.world had problems since day 1 for me. When you get to a smaller fully updated sever like lemm.ee the service is excellent and you see how good Lemmy is.

I'm really grooving on multiple instances. I like that Beehaw and kbin offer meaningfully different audiences and experiences.

The fuck did you just call this? The threadiverse? Nu-uh, fuck the meta fucks, this is the Fediverse.

That's the intended effect. With the current population on Lemmy/Kbin, most instances are still generalist in nature. People will naturally gravitate to the instance with admins who are best aligned with their personal needs, and I expect badly managed instances to simply turn into Voat and die out, as well as more topic specific instances like MTGzone or startrek website to pop up.

as long as you can still subscribe to those communities on other instances it doesn't matter.

I think a problem for new users is failing to understand how the Fediverse works. It's not something apparent and not something you can expect everyone to understand right off the bat. A user may start out on a heavily loaded instance and get discouraged by poor response. They either figure out they need to find a better instance or base their opinion of the whole on that one experience and give up altogether.

Lemmy.ml and lemmy.world can suffer from heavy user load and bog down at times. That situation can be avoided by selecting an instance that's not too heavily loaded. There's a large number to choose from. It may be necessary to shop around for a good one. In technical terms, find a regionally local instance with low hops, fast ping, and good server response. Also admin settings and quality can be a consideration. I actually signed up on four instances before I found one I really liked.

I have an account on lemmy.world, but when I ping it, I'm in the 100ms. I ended up on lemmy.ca where the ping is 3ms average, it makes a big difference in responsiveness.

Probably a combination of things:

• Yes, there were multiple problems in a row that got some people making accounts on other instances, and some people probably stuck with those.

• There were some people who were angry that .world wasn't automatically defederating from Threads and said they were moving to other instances (or already had).

• There were posts about the high .world growth not being a good thing, and more people should sign up on smaller instances. Undoubtedly not everyone who has recently started on Lemmy will like it and stick with it, so if other instances have more of the growth and .world has at least as much attrition, it will look flat or declining relative to others.

Probably other factors too.

I kind of think that's how it's supposed to go in my made-up-right-this-second knowledge of the evolution of open source Federated social media sites. Pick the largest/most active/most variety to get your feet wet and make any weird mistakes you need to make in a crowd where you're one of many and sheer speed of posting means you'll be forgotten in like, hours. Then you get comfortable and see if this is a forever-fit or just a okay-right-now fit.

I mean, I hard-bond to my first and pretty much settle immediately for life unless something is seriously awry, but even I made a backup in another one that I mirrored all my favorite communities in and I am seriously getting one more in a smaller, more specialized server. Yes, I do get the point of Federated, you do not need to explain, but here's the thing: intellectually I know that actually, the population of the Fediverse is orders of magnitude smaller than reddit or pretty much any other social media site, but feelings do not agree: Reddit was like a large, slightly hostile country with a lot of states you avoided always but especially between dusk and dawn; the scope of Fediverse is like being on a very small planet in an expanding universe you can watch growing in real time and it never stops. It's great, but there's something very unsettling realizing you're eight servers from home surrounded by kpop or wake up to find you posted in three communities in servers you don't recognize at two AM and if you can get a reputation for that kind of thing.

My ADHD is living the dream, let's go, but I can see how it would throw people a little.

That's a good thing. Keep the fediverae alive without overemcumbering servers. That's what's so strong about it, we can keep growing without too much costs.

I signed up for TTRPG network, not realizing I also can access Lemmy through it! To be honest I don't know a lot about how the fediverse works at all but so far I like what I'm seeing. Reminds me of reddit circa 2009. In fact, I think this is going to replace my use of Reddit altogether, as it definitely serves the purpose of providing endless content to scroll to.

Question, does it matter? Arent we all part of this universe so it doesnt matter right? Im still sorta confused how all this stuff works.