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[–] Downvote_me_so_hard@alien.top 2 points 9 months ago

Like last month I noticed I only get LTE, even though my plan is 5g. Few months ago everywhere I went it would be 5g, but now only LTE

[–] DabbleOnward@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I get frustrated in stores. It seems almost deliberate that the signal drops so Ill have to use the stores wifi or app to do any searching leading to data collection....

[–] LeakyCVBoot@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

It’s remarkable how awful T-mo coverage is in the Seattle area (about 15 miles from their US office headquarters).

[–] Desirsar@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

This was how it used to be in Kansas City if you were anywhere near the Sprint campus. No idea why they never put an antenna up on their own buildings.

[–] Jakucha@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Verizon is pretty bad also. I know so many major metropolitan areas in down town Seattle that are literal dead zones for phones. Why an enterprising thief could set up shop in these areas and wreak havoc and it’s not like anyone could call the cops about it cause there are not enough police here. Oh and the cell phone reception sucks also. What were we talking about again?

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[–] Whole_Inside_4863@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It’s not getting worse, they are making it worse so you will use WiFi more often and take that traffic off their network.

[–] happyflowerzombie@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

In the USA. Because our elected officials have big telecom’s dick so deep inside them that they can’t even think about regulating anything that would benefit consumers. Remember when we were supposed to have fiber optic internet available to everyone in exchange for telecom not paying taxes for like a decade or more, and then they just didn’t do it and faced no penalties? It’s like that. We’re fucking stupid cash pigs, and our government has sold us to them.

[–] Iwishthiswasnttrue2@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

When the legacy telecommunication lines are underground and the new system is installed on the top of buildings, you get competing wireless signals.

The other thing that happens? Lots of electromagnetic radiation in between. It’s not only bad for reception. It’s bad for the human body, radiation breaks down the our cells and the environment.

Poor infrastructure planning nation wide!

[–] Cactusfan86@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I remember when 5G was rolling out companies were befuddled why people weren’t more excited. Gee maybe because we’d rather you just focus on maintaining quality of service?

[–] GeneralCommand4459@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I find browsing web/social media to be worse these days especially indoors, but maybe ot is a consequence of better insulated buildings?

[–] basti329@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Has been worse for me too. Used to have good connection at work and in stores and now it's all very spotty at best.

Even upgraded my phone in hopes it would help but it didn't really do anything in cities. I do have better connection on the road now though.

[–] PM_Me_Cool_Cars_@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Anecdotal but have definitely noticed this in Atlanta

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[–] Omnicron2@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

O2 is absolutely terrible.

[–] hulminator@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Multiple places in greater london I don't get signal. Don't even speak of wandering further afield to backwaters like Essex

[–] throwawaybanger007@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

huawei ad 4sre

[–] vanilla_disco@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You're right. I'm neither imagining nor experiencing it.

[–] MrEd57076@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I travel a lot. Multiple states. 125k miles a year. I am on a budget carrier. Cellphone speeds only seem, to me, to be slowing in areas with heavy tower traffic. Makes sense. More people with phones than ever. More data intensive games and social media being consumed on all of them. Towers not being built or upgraded as fast as they could be. And of course, the budget carriers do get pushed to the back when congestion is up. The best place to watch netflicks on your phone is out in BFE by yourself. A tower with low traffic never slows down. You can also notice service differences by day of the week. Sunday evening, when everyone is home instead of bar hopping and eating out is the worst time to be online as far as service quality goes.

[–] Johannes_Keppler@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Network congestion is indeed a likely cause. Many blame 5G but it uses the exact same frequencies as 4G, and also some more, notably for short range communication, say up to a few hundred feet.

So most of the time 4G and 5G don't make a difference, you'll notice the same improvements or worsening which can have a myriad of reasons.

There seems to be an utter lack of enough investment in more bandwidth and throughput in the backbone infrastructure.

Slapping a 5G sticker on a product is not much more than marketing in many use cases. 5G shines in highly urbanised areas, IF they build out better infrastructure that is.

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[–] Pleasant_Savings6530@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

T-mobiles “map” sez I got great coverage - across the street from me in the cemetery. This side not so much, weird how they figured that. I have to use wifi calling, thankfully we have unlimited data.

[–] Pirat@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I live in rural area. If my DSL internet went out, I used to be able to hotspot to my phone and continue basic internet surfing. As of a few years ago, that isn't possible anymore. I don't get enough signal to even text reliably.

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[–] SacredGray@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Definitely agree with this. It's been harder finding a no-interference spot lately.

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[–] CaptainColdSteele@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I didn't read the article but I'm guessing it has something to do with net neutrality being canceled a few years ago

[–] BMack037@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

This is why I have my cell service for my phone, and cell service for my vehicle which uses a different carrier. It really sucks driving for work and ending up in a dead zone or spotty coverage.

[–] Ilikecooltech@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

In the USA with net neutrality it will get worse. Carriers will not have an invested interest in improving the infrastructure. Margins are razor thin - imagine a DMV like experience, understaffed and lack of technology.

[–] Terragar@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

In the northeast I’ve had less dead zones the last couple years 🤷‍♀️

[–] CGGamer@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was at a wholesaler recently and one of employees there was affiliated with AT&T and specifically asked me if I had noticed worsening service, as apparently AT&T had acquired something like 70%+ of cell towers? Any truth to this?

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[–] MouseCanoe_@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I live outside a major(but still smaller) city in Arizona, I'm basically in the middle of nowhere and the only thing around is the neighborhood I live in. I don't get full bars here but my LTE service works pretty much flawlessly.

Now every time I go into town I get full bars of service but it's so slow it's pretty much unusable because the network there is overloaded.

[–] Johannes_Keppler@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

This. Network congestion because of lacking infrastructure is the cause.

Many people are somewhat misunderstandingly blaming 5G. But it uses the exact same frequencies as 4G, and also some more, notably for short range communication, say up to a few hundred feet.

The added frequencies in 5G shine in short distance communication. For example to enjoy high speeds at home or in your car in the city. But you have to have a line of sight to the nearest 5G transceiver. Which in rural situations will never be near enough so you default back to the same '4G' tower.

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[–] llcoolmattg@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Too many people connected to an insufficient network

[–] 68Postcar@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Thank you, thank you! REAL as 1 “Great Fiber-Optic” throat shove by municipalities, boroughs & civic offcls, over a wet-lunch & nation-wide.

[–] RandomGuyinACorner@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Haven't noticed any issues on Verizon. Seems t-mobile people are the most vocal about this issue from the comments.

[–] shifty_coder@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising. 5G has less range than 4G, which had less range than 3G, etc. National carriers have been updating equipment on their existing towers, but haven’t been erecting new ones. They don’t want to pay for it.

[–] jimgeosmail@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Not exactly true. 700MHz LTE actually had better range than 850MHz 3G, which is the lowest frequency that 3G used across any carrier. All of the carriers now have 850MHz 5G, and T-Mobile has 600MHz 5G which reaches even further.

The network tech used doesn’t determine the range of the signal, only the frequency does. The difference is that low-band signals are so overloaded now which causes their range to significantly decrease

[–] HotHamBoy@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I can’t get a good signal in half of my town on T-Mobile

Bloomington, Indiana!

[–] 1Originalmind@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Everytime they shorten up the wavelength it gets worse

[–] TheBigFeIIa@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

The death of 3G killed phone reception here in Michigan, get out of a few larger cities and it can get pretty spotty. 4G was never fully developed and now has to carry all the voice traffic 3G used to carry. Town I work near no longer has reliable T-Mobile (old Sprint) reception through most of it since 2022.

[–] f3nnies@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Here in the Phoenix, AZ area, there are random spots on major highways in the middle of the city-( specifically a section of L-202 and a separate two sections on I-17-- that I can completely drop a call in. And I've tried this in the past few months with a Verizon, AT&T, and a t-mobile phone and they all lose signal at roughly the same spots.

[–] delebojr@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

AT&T has been great for me. I did a speed test outside the other day and I got a gigabit down.

It used to be 30 tops so I'd call that an improvement.

[–] Igoos99@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It has got consistently better everywhere I am. Every year is a bit better than the previous. Voice quality keeps getting better.

[–] pseudopad@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I haven't had any problems with phone reception in the European cities I've been to in recent years, or in the one I currently live in. I don't live in the biggest city, but it's still about as dense as London.

The only problem I have, is that bluetooth headphones drop out pretty often when public transit passes by.

I think my country rates in the top 5 worldwide for mobile internet speeds, though, so maybe we just have a lot more cell towers per person (or rather, fewer people per tower) than what's normal.

edit: I was wrong, but that's because most of the top 5 spots are filled by really small but oil-rich countries.

[–] OblivionStar713@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Verizon eliminating 3G killed a lot of areas that needed it for bridging the gaps on 4G/5G. I believe a lot of older frequencies were eliminated from other companies too.

[–] Mobile_Anywhere_4784@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

all those massive 5G towers everywhere that got installed overnighter are definitely not hybrid Electronic warfare assets. That’s crazy talk.

[–] The_Janitors_Mop@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

now that 2g is gone, so is long range radio's, 5g is good for what a mile and not even through objects?

[–] ohyeahwell@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

That’s because these dingdongs haven’t been getting their covid boosters. Come on guys, we need all the 5G we can get!

[–] 2-buck@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Any explanation for this other than 5G or rural? Or is that it? There’s none in the article.

[–] TypicalJeepDriver@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

My favorite thing of recent memory was I went to a Chiefs preseason game where the stadium was only half full. T-Mobile had all these banners up about “Data Strong” and all this bullshit, but I couldn’t make a call or send a text with that company.

T-Mobile, y’all fucking suck.

[–] KaleidoscopeThis5159@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Just restart your phone if you're getting bars but can't browse the internet or get a connection.

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