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[–] Emperor 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A growing number of Tories have been raising concerns about pylons, among them the former home secretary Priti Patel, who asked in parliament this week why the National Grid could not be built in the sea.

The Tories should get in the sea for this idea.

I know the Tories lack commonsense but still...

[–] Syldon 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless you are prepared to move HVDC the costs are immense for moving AC cabling under the sea. The reason we use pylons is be cause there is a massive energy drain if you place cables in the ground over long distances. This problem is near doubled in losses if you place the cables in water.

Can't MPs learn a little about search engines. We have kids getting smarter every generation because they have such good access to information, and yet some MPs are still stuck in the middle ages.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The cables also have to come onshore at some point, especially if one of the aims is to better connect inland rural communities.

Which will mean some sort of pylon.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not if global warming raises sea levels suffciently! .... taps forehead

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's all part of a broader plan to harness the untapped energy trade with Atlantis and Doggerland.

[–] Uranium_Green@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

This is such a silly one, pylons have been here well before I was born, to me they are a part of the landscape, I literally have one within 200m of my house.

As the other commentor says, unless we're intending on moving to HVDC, then there's not real point as losses will be rather staggering.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The pledge comes as Rishi Sunak faces a battle over electricity pylons with the trade secretary, Kemi Badenoch, and former ministers urging him to pull the plug on crucial grid infrastructure.

At the Country Land and Business Association (CLA) conference on Thursday, Labour’s Steve Reed, the shadow environment secretary, will promise to get infrastructure – that is, pylons – built quickly to connect rural people to the grid.

A growing number of Tories have been raising concerns about pylons, among them the former home secretary Priti Patel, who asked in parliament this week why the National Grid could not be built in the sea.

He said: “The proposed grid investments already include coordinated undersea cables to connect up the UK’s vast offshore wind potential – but at some point those lines have to come onshore to reach customers, otherwise it’s like a ring-road without any routes into town.”

Chris Venables, the deputy director of politics at the campaign group Green Alliance, said: “It should be a shared, cross-party national mission to secure our energy independence, and the route to this is through clean, cheap renewable power.

Expensive fossil fuels have wreaked havoc on the economy and pushed up bills for millions, so rapidly building out the power grid to accommodate new clean energy is a top priority.


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[–] brewery 1 points 11 months ago

NIMBYism at its absolute finest. Fuck me