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It's been touted that Kane is making the Bundesliga look like the farmers league it has often been unfairly maligned as and that is contributing to his absurd start at Bayern. That isn't the case IMO. What you are seeing is how Kane performs in a truly elite team with top class players from top to bottom. Had Kane after his first season or two at Spurs after he broke out moved to Man City especially or even Liverpool during Klopp's era, there is a good chance he might have already either broken or come within a handful of goals away from Shearer's record. He posted absurd, outrageous numbers at Spurs, but other than the Poch team from 2014-2018 it was a largely unstable team with major changes and holes throughout the squad. Even that Poch Spurs team at it's very best was never the outright best team in the league. He is 47 goals off Shearer. Is it possible that he might have made up that difference if he had spent the last 8 years at Man City? I'd say it is very likely.

The guy is an absolute monster of a striker. He has walked in to one of the biggest clubs on the planet in a foreign league, in to a team filled with absolute champions of the sport while himself having won absolutely nothing. He is inheriting the mantle of arguably Bayerns greatest #9 of all time in Lewandowski. And he is doing it all absolutely effortlessly and with sheer purpose and determination. You can already see that his teammates have immense respect for him and see him as a match winner and leader. It is a remarkable adaptation that needs more credit than it's getting.

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[–] BriscoCounty83@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not much since Choupo Moting managed to score 17 in 30 games for Bayern last year.

[–] Hefty-Quantity9073@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Your point being?

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[–] biaff33@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He would have been perfect for City. Haaland has been great, but the two are different. In Pep’s system, I will die on the hill that Kane was the optimal striker. Complete player.

[–] figurethisoat@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

pity that kane has still yet to see major silverware.

he really deserves compensation for his efforts.

[–] STILETT0_exists@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hefty-Quantity9073@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Not surprised, as an Everton fan you must be used to scrolling right to the bottom of the page 🤣

[–] jamughal1987@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Nothing Bayern winning the league thousand time again but Kane will have a medal finally.

[–] broke_the_controller@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I think both can be true. He's in a better team in a relatively weaker league than he was playing in before.and is now showing the world how a truly world class striker should dominate that league.

[–] prss79513@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

So many people in this thread are acting like Kane is some undiscovered gem lol, the only people I've ever seen deny his abilities are 12 year old arsenal fans on twitter

[–] Particular-Echo347@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You really are bigging up a not great Bayern squad?

Whatever, Kane has been underappreciated for years and if the weaker league highlights his brilliance than so be it

[–] Hefty-Quantity9073@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

The 4 goals and 2 assists in 5 games in the UCL also highlight this. Good thing the UCL is also a weaker league eh?

[–] Neemah89@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Germany has one team, what are you talking about, he is good but let’s not kid ourselves

[–] Hefty-Quantity9073@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like the only one kidding themselves is you tbh.

[–] Neemah89@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well in that case Kane is the best striker ever and Bayern obviously the hardest team to play at , he elevated their level and now they’re probably have a chance to take the championship👍🏼

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[–] NatNitsuj@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

When he played with the spurs you could see how versatile he was, because of how lacking the rest of his team was. He’s a 9 / 10 / 8. He’s like a bigger, more professional Wayne Rooney (who was more a 10 / 9 / 8), but with less natural talent.

Everyone goes on about Haaland being the fastest to 50 PL goals but if Andy Cole or Alan Shearer played for Peps City side they’d probably do the same if not better.

Sort of similar with this. It’s hard to compare Shearer vs Kane across eras

[–] Odd_Bad_7441@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He was awful today in the Champions League

He hasn’t confirmed anything you have said. Lets wait and see if he actually can win something with Bayern

[–] Dex_Maddock@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Well that's a silly thing to say. Bayern, on any given season, are at least 80% favorites to win their league...

[–] Dapper_Platform_1222@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yes the German league is a farmers league. Yes I wish that Kane had gone to city before they unleashed that Norwegian golem on the league.

[–] CDO_6@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

its a farmers league and he is scoring against shit teams. good for him.

[–] heygos@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Anyone watching footy and not seeing your point as true and valid doesn’t know anything. I have always despised Kane when we played against them (Chelsea) because of how good he actually is. One minute he disappears from up top to drop a scrumptious pass to someone for an attempt on goal and the next he’s scoring back to back hattricks.

He’s made the entire Bayern team better. Sane is living his best life since Kane moved in. Tel has the opportunity to develop under one of the best strikers ever. I’m a happy Bayern fan.

[–] pjanic_at__the_isco@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It can be both. Yes, Kane has better players around him, but also yes, outside of handful of clubs, the Bundesliga is not the strongest league top to bottom. Som of the clubs at the bottom would find it tough sledding in the Championship.

[–] mattxrock@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Hadn't thought about but you're absolutely spot on.

[–] WestwardCycles10456@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yes I think truthfully this just shows how much he carried Spurs.

Yes, Spurs are doing great now because Son has taken the mantle and they've made incredible signings like Van de white Van and Maddison and Ange has done a great job.

But I genuinely think a lot of the seasons where Spurs were finishing 4th, 5th, 6th they would have been finishing 10th plus without Kane. He's fucking incredible. Wish he played well for England tho.

[–] Cockney_Gamer@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I’ll say it once only - prime Haaland could not have done what prime Kane did if he had to play at Tottenham in that team.

Too many rival fans just shit on Tottenham but couldn’t see look past what an incredible player he was in his all round game.

P. S Haaland is freakin unreal but he is surrounded by world class players everywhere that helps him no end.

[–] LayzieKobes@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He can be both really good and that league can be pretty poopeh

[–] Much_Discussion1490@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Kane is a world class forward. As an Arsenal fan it is even harder to digest that Spurs got kane while we got Eddie chamakh Welbeck etc xD. Jokes aside , him and son really dominated the league and were way way beyond the levels of Spurs and ideally should have moved to bigger better organized teams But kudos to both for playing a majority of their prime for one club

I am sure kane at liverpool or city would have reached 300 goals in the premier league. He's a playmaker and a worldie finisher.

Bayern are a great team and Bundesliga is a farmers league. Kane plowing there defense or being goalless for Bayern wouldn't have made a difference. We saw how difficult it is for players to come from that league and settle into the Bundesliga same with french league. Every time Bayern is beaten in Bundesliga the opposition celebrate it as a moment in history , because it's almost a given that Bayern are going to get 80-90 points seasons every season!. In the premier league even if city are the winners , teams like Aston villa Brentford etc can still get the better if them and it's just another week.

The mean quality of teams in premier league is a cut above the rest.

Tldr kane is world class and Bundesliga is a farmers league, these two things can co exist

[–] TheRR135@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

If he joins Liverpool, he has prime Salah and Mane on his wings and potentially Firmino as a 10 behind him. Likewise at City he has the likes of David Silva, DeBruyne and Bernardo Silva creating chances for him. Scary to think what he would have achieved at either of those teams. Potentially stops Haaland from having the PL season scoring record too

[–] skintheory@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Wow, No one is disrespecting Kane based off the club he plays for. I am SOO shocked.

[–] SpaceGoDzillaH-ez@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Kane is one of the best strikers ever, his stats speak for itself, aswell as changing to Bayern and just completely deliver from day 1... He is also so good because you will find him everywhere on the field but when it matters he is where the 9 has to be aswell...

[–] ozziey@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Good morning to you too lads

[–] FormalPerspective347@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting perspective. Though Shearer's Newcastle, where he spent the majority of his prem career, were about as average as Kane's Spurs.

[–] BeerusXmonsta@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Kane somehow managed to get 37 g/a in one of the worst spurs team in modern era. Even when the team was on decline, he's still putting up numbers and just because he played for spurs doesn't mean he was garbage. Just because he's 30, he still worth the price tag because he already proven himself to be one of the best strikers in the world. He doesn't only have a lethal finishing but his playmaking ability is very good too. His passing vision are top tier for a striker. Only us spurs know that he really was worth the money or perhaps more.

[–] Guacamole_Water@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Anyone reading this post not thinking Kane is probs the best striker in the world right now is either an idiot or a Tottenham hater because that’s what his work had come down to up until recently - the fact that he plays for spurs.

[–] neotargaryen@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Agree 100%. Also makes me harbour unreasonable dislike for Kane's useless brother for having him sign that 6-year graveyard contract in 2017 with only a 'gentleman's agreement' release clause. Levy must have been pissing himself. Imagine how different it would've been for him if Raiola was his agent. It really is a prime example of why nepotism is generally a bad idea.

[–] ProfessionalSpeech39@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I mean I was a kid at the time, but didn’t Shearer play most of his career at a team that were in and around Europe, like Spurs?

[–] i_like_cakess@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I've watched a few of his Bayern goals and it looks ridiculous. He's just jogging around the pitch and scoring for fun, doesn't seem to take much effort from him. Looks like he's head and shoulders above bundesliga level. He should come to premier league to really prove himself now 😂

[–] bayernpaul1900@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

You could easily if said that for last season with the start haaland did

[–] Absolomb92@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

What we're seeing is how Kane works in a team that dominates. I agree that he would do the same in a dominating team in the PL.

[–] Veteran_But_Bad@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

people laugh when I say he is a better striker than Haaland - he played as a cf behind the striker for a season and was unbelievably good at that role his passing is exceptional and hes a nightmare for defenders to deal with

What he did in the PL for that Tottenham team is more impressive than what Haaland did in the PL for City

if kane played for city i believe he would get the same number of goals maybe more but hed get more assists and he would offer more outside of the goals

[–] HarHenGeoAma62818@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It’s not about the trophies you win how good a player you are , but when you are comparing the “elite” players in the world , they all have insane numbers so then people go by “trophies”

The prime example IMO is the “Messi and Ronaldo” debate it was always 50-50 even 45-55 whatever way you wanted it … THEN Messi goes and wins the World Cup with Argentina and the debate has just ended with set in stone Messi the best player ever

[–] shiviplays@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

People value trophies too much, that’s the problem. It’s a team achievement and Spurs have been way too inconsistent to get any silverware. Kane, both with statistics and eye test, has far and away been one of the best players in the world. He played for Spurs and finished as the 2nd highest goalscorer in Prem history for fucks sake.

[–] Alarming_Property574@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Basically what I take away from this is:

Tottenham >>>>> Bayern

[–] Wiggalowile@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

to be fair, it's not like Shearer was playing for an elite team his whole career

[–] Space-Debris@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Edit: What you are seeing is how Kane performs in a truly elite team that plays in a Farmer's League

[–] Fern_Pub_Radio@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Possibly the best performing Irishman in the Bundesliga at the moment ……😈

[–] AlmirMu@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Never understood why City didn‘t go for Kane. He‘d have given them all the presence and goals that Haaland does but also crazy playmaking attributes where Haaland is a non-factor in the city team. Frightening thought

[–] ralin_zild@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

And we still haven’t won an international cup with him. How or why do people defend Southgate?

[–] ranthasrabies@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I'm a united fan so my heart is heavy, lol. What could've been.

[–] FireBassist@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Kane is 100% that guy, but it's laughable to say the Bundesliga isn't a farmers league when Bayern have won 12 titles on the spin.

There's only two, maybe three other teams in that league that are even close to Bayern - Dortmund and Leverkusen, maybe Stuttgart and Leipzig. But realistically he's playing for the most dominant team in a league with very few legitimate challengers.

But at the end of the day, a trophy is a trophy, and as a Spurs fan, I'd love to see him go and win stuff, even if its not with us.

[–] Broad_Match@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

As a Spurs fan thanks for stating the obvious. Only an idiot wouldn’t have known this before.

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