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Hey everyone,

I am exploring switching over to Linux but I would like to know why people switch. I have Windows 11 rn.

I dont do much code but will be doing some for school. I work remote and go to school remote. My career is not TOO technical.

What benefits caused you to switch over and what surprised you when you made the switch?

Thank you all in advanced.

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I never switched. I checked out BSD and Linux when it was new and I stuck with Linux.

Ok, I was on AmigaOS before, but it died.

[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I switched because there's nothing I can do on windows that I can't do on Linux. Granted, it can take some legwork and reading tutorials to get certain games running on linux. But I just feel more in control of my stuff on Linux.

As a beginner, I really suggest you make the move to Linux as easy as possible for yourself. It's more likely to be a pleasant experience, and thus a long term one. Try something easy like Linux mint. Once you get used to that, you can start distro hopping.

[–] Rakqoi@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 year ago

When the Steam Deck was first announced, I was so excited for it that I figured it was as good a time as any to switch to linux on my desktop, to get familiar with in in advance of the Steam Deck release. I wanted more control over my PC, and I've been wanting to switch to linux for ages, but it was something I kept putting off just because I knew it would be quite a time sink to learn to use it.

I was surprised with how simple linux really was. I started with Kubuntu and hopped to Garuda, to be able to use the AUR, and I've been in love with linux to the point where I never even boot into windows despite still having it installed. I just have never felt the need, and windows now feels so clunky and not very personalized to my preferences.

[–] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, it just came down to how unintuitive and slow Windows's desktop environment is. Setting up the most basic customizations requires going through like 15 sub-menus or dealing with the registry. Also, GNOME and KDE are just so much prettier than Windows's desktop environment.

[–] loopgru@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

This is it for me, too. Back before I got into Linux I was forever tinkering with third party stuff to try to make the UI more efficient with things like Enso and Docker, and make it prettier with other stuff, but it was always a ramshackle cludged together mess. GNOME just resolves all of those issues neatly for me, runs faster, and isn't crammed full of bloatware ad crap like modern versions of Windows. And it's more secure, free, and ethically satisfying as a cooperative, trans-national project.

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Privacy concerns and a growing view of closed source software as malware.

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[–] GreyShack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It was when the third or fourth thing ended up persistently broken after an update and the whole system became too much of a pain to use. I honestly don't recall if it was XP or Win 7.

I had used a couple of Linux flavours before for a short periods and originally planned to dual boot, but this time, just never got around to putting a new Win partition on and found that I had no need for it anyway.

[–] spacedancer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Is faster. I don't care about the extra bells and whistles, and I want a straightforward functioning system that allows me to do what I need to do. I also like that I can customize my desktop experience to my heart's desires. I can literally change the way my system looks if I get bored of it. Most importantly, the lack of tracking/telemetry and being a smaller target on the web.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 4 points 1 year ago

Windows Vista kinda sucked and Kubuntu 7.10 was so much snappier, and I was already dealing with Linux servers so I liked it for web development.

[–] JWBananas@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I switched once in college just because I could. But then I switched back when Windows 7 was released.

Then I switched again at work because our product ran on Ubuntu server, and I hate PuTTY with a passion, and it was just easier to manage Linux from Linux. But I switched back again when we were acquired by a larger company that required us to use more productivity tools that didn't run well on Linux at the time and had to to "just work" (Skype for Business, Zoom, etc).

These days I spend most of the workday in WSL via Windows Terminal. At home I run a handful of Linux VMs atop an ESXi hypervisor installed on an old desktop. But when I'm not working, I generally just stay as far away from computers as possible.

[–] coffeeguy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

When you first switch you might feel overwhelmed because you'll have to develop a sense of how things work in a non-Windows world. But, after a bit you'll realize you feel in control of your computer, maybe for the first time ever. It may seem like a small thing, but the realization that I finally "own" my computer and control the software that is installed on it, how it runs, what programs do what tasks, etc... was really surprising and made everything worth while.

As for switching, I had been exploring the idea. One night while writing an important work email on my Windows 11 pc in outlook (also work required) my pc just randomly shut itself off and, of course, outlook did not save the email draft. Deleted the windows virus the next day and my pc has worked much better ever sense.

If you make the switch you'll be able to find lots of great help with technical issues online in places like this.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Switched to Linux in November 2022. I was tired of not owning my pc

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

For me I just want to see Linux get more support and it'll get that with more market share so I switched. I think there should be an alternative to windows or mac. Also the terminal is so nice to have. After many years on linux I'm very comfortable in a terminal but still don't know a lot of the powerful commands, but now with ai I can just ask it how to convert videos or move files from one computer to another and it gives me the command

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched back in 2005 (I think), because Windows XP didn't have the drivers for being installed on an S-ATA drive and SUSE could be installed without any hassle. I feel very old.

[–] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dad always tells me about how it drove him insane for days that Windows XP couldn't detect the HDD, but it showed up totally fine in BIOS. He ended up taking it to a computer shop, and the bastards didn't even tell him about the F6 floppy (instead they charged him double what was quoted because their techs had to 'learn how to do it').

It was only because they somehow even screwed that up, what should have been a simple setup of Windows XP, and he had to reinstall, that he finally learned from the internet that he needed the F6 floppy.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ha! I ran a little computer shop for 6 years starting in 2008 and never knew about the f6 floppy until today

Well TIL

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[–] NameOfWhimsy@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it was pretty gradual. In my university research a couple years ago I needed to work with the university's supercomputer running RHEL, so I got some exposure there. At some point I put Mint on my laptop, keeping Windows on my desktop "in case I needed to do any real work", then about a year ago I put linux* on my desktop as well. I do still have a Windows dual-boot just in case there's some weird software I need to use, but I haven't touched it more than once or twice since. I switched partially out of curiosity, but largely as part of an effort to de-google and de-microsoft my stuff so I'm more in control.

*distro-hopped a bit, but now am settled on EndeavourOS

I was surprised at how much you needed the terminal, but also how easy it was to use the terminal after a bit of practice. I prefer it to GUIs for a lot of things now (like git). Also, installing software from a package manager rather than going to a website and downloading it. I didn't like that at first, but I love that concept so much more now, since I can just sudo apt upgrade and everything is up-to-date (no downloading the new version after an update).

I'm now to the point that when I do need to use a windows machine for some reason, it takes me a second to remember how things work. It's kinda a weird feeling tbh haha

[–] metacolon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

My brother pushed some buttons in Windows lockscreen, which caused assistance settings to never go away again (I still don't know how I should've fixed it), that was the final annoyance with Windows and I switched to Linux on my laptop. On my PC I switched once I didn't need Windows for work (remote desktop) anymore.

[–] omeara4pheonix@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Originally, because I was a poor middle school student with a bunch of dumpster hardware. I could not afford a windows license (this was the XP days). I immediately liked Ubuntu (gnome 2 at the time) more than windows, everything felt faster and more customizable. It really screamed on my pentium 3. I used Linux of various flavors all the way through school and continue to use it as my OS of choice to this day. I remember my teachers always being mad that I didn't use "times new Roman" font when I turned in papers, explaining that I used Linux and TNR was not an available font didn't do much for me. I would switch to windows for AAA games back in the day, but that is quickly becoming less necessary.

The biggest benefit I have seen over the years is that it is so much easier to keep old hardware alive (and still secure) with Linux. If your old matching is starting to bog down you can always find a lighter weight distro to load it up with. And when you are ready to upgrade hardware the old stuff can easily be turned into a server, game console, or PC for grandma. Anything to keep it out of a landfill is pretty easy to do. It used to be that you never had to worry about paying for an upgrade either, but now that windows is essentially free for upgrades that is no longer a huge benefit.

[–] stark@qlemmy.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm in the same boat myself. Windows is and has been my daily driver since the days of Windows 3.1. Over the past few months, I began a path learning web development and I've been using WSL on Windows 11 to learn. I picked up an old laptop and I'm currently installing Debian with KDE Desktop hoping I to find a life raft out of the Windows world for reasons unknown.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Windows ME sucked big time. Never looked back.

[–] gabmartini@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Back in the day (1999/2000) Linux seems to be a small niche, fun and novelty. I started with Turbolinux :D

[–] itchimachi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I Did not want to reinstall Windows again. Switched and never looked back.

[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I switched when my old Windoz XP install deflated in a blue screen of death. I didn't even know there was a difference between an OS and the computer as a whole, but a friend gave me four live CDs with linux distros on them (Ubuntu 12.04, Bodhi, PClinus, can't remember the fourth).

What made me stay was the FOSS ideals that make software available to all. I was so broke at the time that I didn't have the money to buy a new $100 windows install. Without Linux I wouldn't have had a computer. Since then it's always been the ethos that has kept me with Linux. That being said, here are the unexpected benefits:

  • Entire file system is stored as text files. Super easy to back up and administrate.
  • Support communities (Arch wiki, ubuntu forums, etc...) are filled with highly educated members who have very often asked and answered the questions I had.
  • The app repositories. It blew my mind when I found out I didn't have to hunt around on the web for an .exe file that might be coming from an insecure source. Linux apps (distro repos, flatpaks, snaps) are centrally available from your terminal just for your distribution.
  • Lastly a more overarching meta-point, the software respects thr user. Windows and MacOS don't respect you and make it difficult to maintain freedom in the way that you use your computer and manage your files.
[–] danie10@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, it was much like iPhone vs Android. I've twice been back to owning an iPhone and have kept leaving because of the more closed ecosystem. The freedom to explore, take apart, modify, hack, learn, etc. I don't do a lot of that, but it is nice to try things out. So in summary for me its the philosophy behind it, and I can install it freely across all computers, Pi's, etc in the home.

EDIT: I forgot I'd also bought Vista at the time, and it was not great. I vowed after that not to pay for another Windows OS.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I was on windows 10 without an SSD. There is only so much dog slow you can handle before you want to change it. I was amazed by how much faster linux was. Windows 10 was the first windows I noticed that struggled this much. It's like they gave up on performance and just relied on the hardware. I dual booted from there with linux mint and over time, I started windows less. I haven't used it in months.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

sick of windows. spyware, forced updates, no customizability... ect

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I hate all of the spying that Windows is engaged in now. What really pushed me over the edge is that Windows started opening a full page Office 365 add in my browser every time the computer woke up from sleep. I couldn't find any information about how to stop it and eventually just said "fuck Windows" and installed Linux. That was about 3 years ago. I still have Windows as a dual boot because I need it for Fusion 360, and the piece of shit still does the O365 add that I can't get rid of and now constantly tries to trick me into upgrading to Windows 11, despite the fact that I've already said no about 10 times. Fuck Windows piece of shit spyware/adware masquerading as an operating system.

I saw a post from r/unixporn on all and thought it looked really cool.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why did I switch to Linux ? I pushed Windows XP as far as it could go (skipped Vista altogether), and after that I became so frustrated with Windows 7 being so bad that I switched to Linux and never looked back since.

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago
[–] OboTheHobo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Windows kept annoying me. Somewhat ironically, the last straw for me was right after I tried linux for the first time using a live usb. Upon trying to go back into windows, BitLocker locked me out for changing secure boot settings. I thought, no problem, I'll go online and get my recovery key. I go online to discover there's no bitlocker recovery key. After some investigation, I found out if your OneDrive is locked down (for me because I went over my storage limit, something that only happened because windows insists on uploading all of your personal files to onedrive) you can't get your recovery keys. I deleted the stuff but had to wait a full day before onedrive was unlocked and I got my recovery keys.

So, in summary, windows locked me out of my computer that I own because I tried another OS, then didn't give me the option to unlock my device because I used too much storage in the cloud service they made me use. No thanks, I'd rather have control over the device I paid for and I own rather than it being controlled by some massive corporation.

And I gotta say, when you actually learn how to interface with your device on a deeper level, having complete control over everything is super nice. Also, the unix-style command line makes way more sense and is far easier to learn than the windows command line IMO. While a lot of newer Linux distros don't need you to use the console, it is really nice to know how for more advanced usage.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Private, Secure, FOSS. I want something that I know is my own and not a $200 license to a proprietary POS operating system that spies on me. Run a packet tracker on any Windows system and watch that guy ping to Windows with every bit of telemetry you can offer.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

So it was 1995, and a new version of Windows came out. Sadly it didnt run on our 486 so we upgraded to a new computer with a Pentium processor (a week before the Pentium Pro was released). My parents got their new machine and i was left with with Windows 3.11.

A friend of mine from school, a few years older, had just come back from a computer show down in Green Bay with a box fully of floppy disks (like 70). That weekend i brought my computer over to his house along with a few other friends and we all installed Slackware. At that point we were all using the Universe of Wisconsin's dialup service and were able to get online, do some Gopher, IRC and MUDing.

The only other time i ran a non *nix OS would be when work gave me a Windows machine or when I was gaming (Quake, Ultima Online). Otherwise it has been Linux and BSDs since 95

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't switched. Not fully. Gaming is still far better on Windows. Yeah I have a steam deck amd the games that are supported run amazingly.

Anyway, I switched because as a software dev, Linux is such a better development enviroment. Getting a working C/C++ compiler working on windows without using VS is a huge pain, but most linux distros come with GCC preinstalled. Need to do Java? Just a command away.Rust? Ruby? Python? Same deal.

[–] WarlordTeias@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've been growing increasingly frustrated with how much my computer felt less and less like my own with every Windows update. They have been steadily removing control away from the user and putting me in frustrating positions. I've used Linux for a week here and a week there over the last few years so I thought, screw it!, and made the switch about 3 months ago. I don't feel any need to go back.

The last straw was when using the Xbox app. For some reason I didn't have ownership of the folders where the games were installed. I couldn't see how much space they were using and I couldn't access them to troubleshoot an issue I had. Well I could, but I shouldn't have to manually give myself ownership of non-critical files on my machine while using an admin account. In addition, after uninstalling a 100GB+ game, it for some reason just left the files on my drive (That I also didn't have ownership of to delete.)

The Xbox app also one day decided that it couldn't update any games, the error codes are shit and don't lead to any usable information or the copy/paste responses from their troglodyte community helpers telling you to run sfc, chkdisk, Windows repair then they just tell you your RAM is bad. (This applies to most of Windows' generic ass error messages) To top it off, the Xbox app now launches THREE other launchers by itself... without asking (Ubisoft, EA, Riot). Whoever decided that needs to be fired, ideally into the sun.

I don't want to use anything from a company that hires brain-dead morons that make and/or allow those kinds of design choices.

crazy updates which broke normal functionality, absence of tiling window manager

[–] jpablo68@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I made the switch when windows ME was released, right now I'm using win10 for work because of some software that really doesn't have an alternative in Linux but I do run it on all of my other computers. Benefits:

  • customization: If you want a desktop environment there's KDE, Gnome or XFCE, if you want just windows or a tiling window manager there's tons of them too
  • package managers: update all your software on your own terms while you brew some coffee.
  • scripting capabilities: you can automate lots of stuff with bash.
  • scalability: do you have a potato computer, no problem, do you have a nice one, even better.

Edit: I forgot to say that I run Debian on most of my machines.

[–] Superjet2001@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Forced Windows updates bad. Gaming on Linux good. Also Windows 11 not installable on perfectly good hardware.

[–] R4iNO@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

My AMD graphics card had atrocious driver support in Windows, and every time windows forced the half-yearly big update on me, my PC would go into a BSOD loop and I would not be able to run windows. It was becoming a massive annoyance and a humongous time waster.

So I switched to Linux Mint. No hardware problems at all. With the graphics card working, I played a video game that literally worked better in Linux than Windows.

Then I bought a new laptop and dual booted different distributions. But every time I log into Windows after doing something in Linux (Fedora KDE spin), my windows clock would get messed up. There are professional softwares I have to use that only work on Windows, so completely switching to linux was not an option, and windows boots up Much faster than linux.

So when I needed some space for an online multiplayer game, I got rid of the dual boot. Now I run everything using WSL2.

Windows remains the default platform for small developer teams, and large video games. So it takes a large incovenience to abandon it. And just a little bit of friction is enough to make me switch back to windows. Sorry if I disappointed you guys.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Windows is cancer with the telemetry. Also the updates, which is the reason I hate Ubuntu

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I really enjoy copying URLs / bash scripts off the internet instead of downloading a file and pressing enter on it.

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