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I remember the hype around him at the time, people talking about him being the next super star for Barcelona. Why didn't he do well at Barcelona?

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[–] 21shazam@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He did well for the first season. He was confident. But after an injury he started losing it.

[–] Hot_Excitement_6@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He plays in the same spaces as Messi. Like Greizeman. A dumb signing.

[–] PM_ME_STRONG_CALVES@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

That Barcelona era was truly lost

[–] antebyotiks@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No he doesn't, he literally plays on the opposite side

[–] Warm-Membership-8361@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Correct. Messi usually goes right and Countinho left.

[–] antebyotiks@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

"Usually" not usually, that's where they play and have always played.

[–] DarthAlandas@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Neither were true wingers at the time though, both were more of a mix between a winger and a 10, filling the same spaces, but on opposite sides. Neither had good work rate, which makes it hard to have both play together.

[–] antebyotiks@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yes but they play opposite sides is the point that wasn't the issue, the issue was his style of play when you already have Messi like you the work rate.

This would make sense of griezman as he's a left footer playing in similar areas than messi

[–] lookma24@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Messi was better and played his position

[–] rczyxc@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago
[–] Incredibiliz@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Afaik it was Valverde playing him at left wing instead of his natural position.

[–] Normal-Vegetable-483@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago
[–] allrightyes@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Couldn't justify his price because of pressure

[–] Excellent-Archer-238@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

huge price tag pressure, and his playstyle was not suited to Barcelona's tiki-taka oriented style. He immediately did well at Bayern because they are more similar to the Liverpool he used to play in during his best years.

[–] Fit_Helicopter1949@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Messi was there and no one was allowed to play good and take the aura from him.

Downvote me now… good night.

[–] Remedy9898@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He was a highlight reel attacking midfielder who never did much defending, and was not a consistent performer. That works fine in a top 4 liverpool team, but got exposed when he was played as a midfielder at a huge team like Barcelona. Additionally, the game has moved away from luxury players like him and Ozil. Current attacking midfielders like Odegaard, Bernardo Silva, Maddison, and KDB all press hard and have positional awareness.

[–] rnnd@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Coutinho is a good player but he's not as amazing as the hype made him out to be. The price was way too high. Even at Liverpool, he wasn't as amazing as fans made him up to be. He was okay in most games but every 3 or so games, he'd produce some bit of magic.

[–] sufinomo@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

From a Liverpool fan: coutinho is good for having that great goal or chance created. In between that he isn't going to do too much. Barcelona is built to have possession and control. He's just not a great player in that style. He's mainly effective on a team that lacks offense and needs that one guy to make something happen.

[–] Lhadar31@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

That money helped Liverpool buy Alisson and Van Dyke, money well spent!!!

[–] Short_Prompt692@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It’s obvious, he signed for Barcelona

[–] mylanguage@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He fit the prem much more than La Liga imo - struggled to break down and be effective against deeper defensive lines.

[–] girl-with-a-tail@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Buying a player and expecting the player to play in a completely different role which they are not familiar with, it has always been Barca's way.

[–] RecommendationNo993@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Another interesting thought. Didn’t Neymar eagerly want him to join Barca and then left before it happened? Coutinho was a great player. It was Barcelona who started to fuck up.

[–] antebyotiks@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

That whole Barca era was fucking awful from Barca built the completely wrong kind of team around Messi, should've been buying young athletic hard running players to be around Messi.

[–] Nathan_kwame@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

basically any club he has gone to except bayern didn’t suit his playstyle as they were all possession based teams

[–] RoutineFeeling@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He was always bang average at Liverpool. They must have laughed their way to bank when Barcelona came with the huge transfer fee. Really poor transfer business.

[–] Futlord@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Main reason was his playing style, he was more suited for making deep runs through the centre in klopp's system while at Barca they wanted him to join possession attack from the left wing, same thing happened with greizmann who had played his entire Atletico as a supporting striker

[–] vulture_1_1@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Was always a one trick pony..also barca never played a 4231. Am.is where he'd make the biggest impact

[–] fvazquez310310@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Pessi took his position so he couldn’t shine.