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My Mother hired a licensed electrician to install 1 ethernet drop in her home office. She already had a preexisting tp-link setup in the basement. She showed me the invoice today which totaled $958.00! I'm shocked and disgusted. Feels like they took advantage of my Mother.

I told my Mother to call them first thing tomorrow morning to see if they possibly made a mistake. If not, I advised her to never do business with that company again. This seems like highway robbery. Is there anything else she can do?

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[–] Tight-Young7275@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Anyone here hiring for something like this? 🫢

[–] urban-achiever1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

$500 van roll fee on top of some pricy work. Maybe that was the minimum

[–] mspencerl87@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Residential is usually more expensive than business and usually companies won't do residential if they're big.

It's been a few years since I got quotes, but generally it was $250 per run and those runs would be run to their max length with slack if needed. Or at least that's what I requested 90 m for every run spool it up in the ceiling.

It can take a lot of work to run cable and residential because of things like fire blocks and other unforeseen circumstances.

But this seems very high to me.

Tip: if you ever pay someone to run ethernet and you need a single drop pay for two.

[–] jdrch@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Would need to see the invoice.

[–] Whipitreelgud@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Was it a fixed price quote or t&m estimate?

[–] ActivityLiving4517@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Paid a fair price don’t call the business.

Yes, you’re right it’s a steep price, but that’s the cost for a professional.

[–] Wdrussell1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The typical price for a business that had drop ceilings and drywall is $150-$300 depending on number of drops ordered. A single drop is barely worth the materials to deploy a tech.

Using that understanding doing it in a house will easily add $250 for the headaches that can happen. So knowing it is $300 and then a possible $250. $900 seems reasonable in the aspect of they have to make money and they have to make sure that sending the tech is worth doing. She got a quote that was the "I don't want to take this job" price.

Think about it like this. If you were to tell me that you would pay me $50 to come make you a pot of coffee plus all of my travel and materials. That job to me is not worth it. However if you told me you would pay me $500 plus travel and materials. That job becomes worth doing.

[–] muffdivemcgruff@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Where? India?

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[–] Elegant_Gain9090@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You will pay $1000 any time someone shows up at your house to do anything.

[–] racegeek93@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only reason I can think it would be expensive is if it was a really complicated run. But seems way too much.

[–] Seniorjones2837@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They said drop ceiling in basement and it was first floor. So basically drilling up through the floor into the wall in first floor. Super easy

[–] DarkSoulsExplorer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

“Super Easy” you never say that till you’re done with the job. You say or think that going in and you’re most likely fucked. “Oh this is gonna be super easy”. 8hrs later you wanna burn the building down and run around the town naked screaming at the top of your lungs. Congratulations you’ve just gone insane. Haha

[–] fromthebeforetimes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

run around the town naked screaming at the top of your lungs.

So YOU'RE the guy I saw the other day.

[–] Seniorjones2837@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lol you sound just like my coworker!

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[–] johnsonflix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I mean she signed off on the work right? I over quote jobs that wouldn’t be worth my time if I didn’t charge more. They never have to accept the quote

[–] l8s9@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I did a job where I made a few drops from house to two barns (conduit done by someone else) to setup up cameras, an AP and a switch, I only put down $400 as labor. I guess I under valued my self.

[–] White_Rabbit0000@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That’s insanely overpriced. But I think the first mistake is getting an electrician instead of a low voltage tech.

[–] MajorTacoLips@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This.

I ended up teaching an electrician how to do the job right when they came to do some warranty work on a new home. I couldn't believe what the guy didn't know.

[–] Cmdr_Toucon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This right here. Might not be an overcharge for an electrician depending on the details of the cable run - but a low voltage guy would have done it for 1/3 of that. Opportunity dollars matter

[–] jashow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Everyone in this group says this, but I live in a small to medium city (metropolitan area population just over a million) and I could not find a “low voltage electrician” anywhere. Called tons of people. Closest I could find (who wasn’t just a normal electrician) was a computer repair guy who said “I suppose I could do some runs but I’m not a network guy” and a high end home theater shop that point blank told me it wasn’t worth their time unless I bought a multi thousand dollar home automation system from them.

So how exactly do I find a low voltage tech? Cause Google didn’t work. I suppose there must be a bunch of people who work the commercial side but it was near impossible to find anyone who did residential.

[–] MotherFuckaJones89@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I had the exact same experience.

Found companies that advertised residential networking and they were like, "Yeah, we do it as part of a new build with full automation."

Ended up having to do it myself.

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[–] Civil_Treacle_8748@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That’s crazy my price is $120/drop and that’s platedwall fished and tested

[–] ShaneC80@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

and that’s platedwall fished

I'm going to assume this means a wall plate and jack?

As opposed to the Verizon installer who just drilled a hole through my house, ran a wire from the ONT up to the 2nd floor, and put a large knot on the inside to keep it from falling back through..... *sigh*

Didn't even strap the cable or anything, it's just out there flopping.

[–] lagunajim1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What does "platedwall" mean?

I asked above if the price included drywall work for the outlet box.

[–] fromthebeforetimes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

$120/drop no matter what? That doesn't sound professional at all. Some jobs require cutting and patching drywall. Some jobs require a concrete core drill through commercial building walls/ceilings. Some jobs require hours of fishing through crawl spaces and attics.

You really going to spend 6+ hours and still charge "$120/drop" for 1 drop?

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[–] ArcheelAOD@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If it was 2 wall fish and 30-40 ft through a drop ceiling. I know a few companies that would do it for ~$100

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[–] Dazzling_Guidance792@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The jack cost 1$ the cable path cost the rest check that out

[–] darth_magnum45@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

She got way over charged. Shouldn’t have been over $300.

[–] Seniorjones2837@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Of course it’s a rip off but she could have gotten any schmuck from Craigslist to do it for like $100 + materials lol. I mean if it’s drop ceiling, shit I’d do that for $200

[–] teethteetheat@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I spent that to have my whole house set up for Ethernet and the guy set up a ubiquiti network for me

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[–] Odd-Distribution3177@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If you and or your north hired someone with out an estimate ahead of time I’m surprised they didn’t charge you triple that for being stupid.

[–] DeX_Mod@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

that's a lot, but it feels like the price reflects the cost the dude would normally make that day

a single ethernet run for an electrician is usually a waste of their time tbh

[–] newphonedammit@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was a data cabler at the start of my career.

Residential is the worst. Dwangs in walls. Cable runs are always a bitch. And even if you have a drop its not guaranteed to fit or feed another cable, and usually not easily. Many walls will have to be surface mounted blocks with capping. House ceilings suck.

Most offices have suspended ceilings , hollow walls / partitions . Built in cable ducts and catenarys. etc etc

I did exactly 4 residential jobs. Lol.

And dozens and dozens of commercial buildings.

Not in the US but this seems high-ish. But I know lots of people would feel this sort of job is seldom worth the petrol or stress.

[–] Popular_Frosting2018@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How was the pay for residential data cabling?

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[–] jamesgang65@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I may reconsider my choice not to do residential stuff if this is what they are willing to pay.

[–] kweiske@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I paid a cabling guy $300 to run 2 Cat 6 cables from my downstairs to upstairs. They fished it into the basement, then up into a closet, into the upstairs, floor and into the wall and mounted on both floors on wall jacks.

I wouldn't hire an electrician to do that.

[–] echopulse@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Should have been no more than $200 I would charge around 100 in my market.

[–] fromthebeforetimes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We don't know how far he drove or how rural this area is. Let's assume that the customer is 90 minutes away from you and you are guessing 1 hour of work, and that before you show up, you really have no idea how long you will be there.

That is 4 hours minimum that you are out for this job, and possible 5-6 since you haven't seen it yet if you were to run into move complex wall issues.

Would you REALLY give a firm quote of $100 for being out 6 hours, effectively making just over $10/hour? Or would you make it significantly higher due to distance and unknown's?

Keep in mind that the quote was agreed upon before the work was done and most likely before anyone even looked at the job. Tons of unknowns at that point.

[–] gregcramer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This isn’t a ridiculous price. Might be slightly high but not highway robbery.

[–] White_Rabbit0000@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

More than slightly imo. Of course we don’t know how long of a run this was. But for a single Ethernet drop by itself anything over 250-300 to start is price gouging in my book.

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[–] lagunajim1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Did that include drywall work and painting?

[–] 568Byourself@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I get billed out at between 120 and 150 per hour as a home automation guy, from the time I start traveling to the jobsite until I leave. This might take me an hour and be only 30 mins from the shop so it could be in the 200 range. It could also be over an hour drive from the shop with tons of unforeseen obstacles. Things like definitely have the potential to turn into a handful of hours even though it looked like one hour on paper.

So yes, even having the proper guy for the job (never an electrician) do this type of task could turn into this type of quote. There’s no knowing if it was truly highway robbery without more info.

[–] crunx22@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Shit. Take me 2 hours. 1000 bucks like that, in the wrong job.

[–] dedsmiley@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I had pretty much every light switch and receptacle (minus the 3 I did myself) replaced in my house by two electricians 4 years ago. They charged me $400 and I was pretty happy with that. This seems excessive.

[–] Popular_Frosting2018@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

How long was the installer there for ?

[–] kenworthhaulinglogs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Am LV tech - I don't do resi but with a drop ceiling it's about the same.

Cat6 drop is $285, all in.

Sparky billed her for learning how to terminate it 🤣

[–] fromthebeforetimes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Is that $285 all-in even if the customer is 90 minutes away, which is 3 hours drive time round trip?

[–] Cortexian0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I typically tell people to expect $200-$250 per drop location. I usually specify location because running 1, 2, 4, 6, etc wires to the same location is the same amount of work. Obviously cost of materials increases a bit, but not by much unless they're long runs.

Considering OP said there is drop ceiling in the basement, that makes this a TON easier. I would have quoted $250 for the single run, and offered to run two cables.

[–] echopulse@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Even for job that takes 10 hours I would only charge 500

[–] Blathermouth@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

3 years ago I paid $100 per drop for Ethernet from a certified electrician. Now, he was here to replace my panel, add some circuits, and the Ethernet, so I’m not sure if the $100/drop fee was discounted in some way based on the total size of the job, but it seemed very reasonable to me.

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