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[–] tammrak@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is so dumb.

[–] ThorIsMighty@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Oh great, fast-tracking stuff will definitely solve this issue, that's how you get quality employees, just blast through it all. Also, who the hell would trust that they wouldn't be unbiased??

[–] stoneman9284@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Nothing inspires confidence like fast tracking

[–] CaddyAT5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Should have been done Donkeys years ago

[–] spongey1865@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They've done this a bit in rugby and they tend to be worst refs. Not saying PGMOL have done a good job with a lot of their decisions but the job is so hard to do without mistakes whilst the criticism is so high that even if the quality of onfield reffing improved I don't think people would have confidence.

It's why there should be a focus on improving VAR to make it a streamlined and consistent process which PGMOL and everyone else has made a meal of

[–] Key_Kong@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Jobs for the boys

[–] ritwikjs@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

what about the refs who are wading through the trenches who come pre experienced and would chomp at the bits for a promotion?

[–] posthumous@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Imagine ronaldo as a ref 😂

[–] Ransom_Raccoon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Rooney please!

[–] CROBBY2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

PGMOL out of VAR is what needs to happen. All we need is automated offside and a competent VAR to tell the actual official to head to the screen for another look on questionable calls.

[–] symptic@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Which United and City players have retired recently?

[–] shtrooooooooooooodle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ole schemin' PGMOL at it again!

[–] Storyboys@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The 12 names have been revealed:

  1. Aguero
  2. David Silva
  3. Vincent Kompany
  4. Joleon Lescott
  5. Pablo Zabaleta
  6. Micah Richards
  7. Yaya Toure
  8. Samir Nasri
  9. Carlos Tevez
  10. Aleksandr Kolarov
  11. Gael Clichy
  12. Josep Guardiola
[–] Moreaccurateway@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Honestly, Howard Webb is a moron. He’s more interested in being liked than doing a good job.

Last year he decided that VAR decision were going to be faster so we got faster decisions but more wrong decisions as well.

He started this year by making a big deal out of apologising to Wolves for the Onana non-penalty. This was dumb because while it was a bad decision it make it a much bigger deal and I think the increase of managers bitching about VAR is because of it.

Now he’s fast tracking ex-pros because ex-pros have also assumed they would be better referees despite their being zero evidence to back this up.

He’s a disaster.

[–] lucastimmons@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Fuck Tum Balogun and the mail.

[–] wintermaster7@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Zlatan can only be the non biased candidate from players haha

[–] YoungFormal1252@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, they are all from Manchester.

[–] smokesletsgo13@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] TooRedditFamous@alien.top 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The way to make refereeing better at the top level long term is to improve the conditions for grass roots reffing

No one wants to ref, the pay is shit for what you have to deal with. The only people that do it are power trip or "love of the game" people. You get more grass roots refs, you get a bigger pool for advancement, you get better quality refs filtering up.

Of course that's very long term and it'll take years for grass roots refs starting now to reach the pro leagues. But that's how you solve the root of the problem, as opposed to band aid solutions for the top level, which may not even work.

[–] veintiuno@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is a great idea.

In the competitive youth leagues where my kids play, we have a handful of teenagers learning to become referees. I see these refs as playing football, but in a different way. Often they are excellent in their roles, especially when you get ones that have found their confidence and don't mind telling the occasional rowdy parent to take a hike. There are lots of kids that are athletic and rule-oriented that would be perfect for being in the game as refs - especially the kids that love the sport but don't want to bump bodies and push boundaries too much. The kid refs make pretty good money as well ($50/game, IIRC - not bad way to roll into Saturday night, beats bagging groceries). Parents should be educated about these opportunities by the local clubs - it would really help over the long-term.