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Low-key kinda want this. We could call it "tredember".

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A calendar with 13 months of 28 days each. This would result in a year with 364 days. However, it wouldn't align with the solar year, which is about 365.24 days. The extra .24 days accumulate to create the need for a leap year.

Simply put, this system would simplify the calendar but would still require some kind of adjustment to stay in sync with the seasons.

Aka it wouldn't work.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s just an extra New Year’s Day every four years or so. Since there’s already a set day for this to happen it’s easier than a random month.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure but what day of the week would it count as? Any answer would throw off the perfect Mon-Sun year cycle.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You wouldn’t advance Mon-Sun. You’d just have one or two special days.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Sunday and Sunday Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This sounds like a pain on the ass to support with computer calendars.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Current calendars are a pain to support. This would totally make things easier. Always 4 weeks per month, days of the week always correspond with day of month. This is significantly easier than the current system.

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Aka it would work as well as the current system but simpler.

[–] echodot 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's called skip day. It wouldn't be a day of the week it would literally just be a day with no name attached to it and every four years you'd have two skip days. So you'd have Sunday December 28th, and then 2 days later would be Monday January 1st. As long as we all accept that skip days don't exist within a week it's fine.

It's a little weird but it's only weird for two days or one day rather than being weird basically all the time.

I live on earth, I'm an adult and speak English as my primary language, and even I need to do the little song to work out how many days a given month has.

[–] Rusky_900@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We could do a purge in those days.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago

No Nut November followed by a day of prunes, then hardcore anal for a day straight. The perfect purge.

[–] echodot 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I've always thought that the purge would only really work in the US, as in Europe it would be more awkward than deadly.

Basically everybody would just be rude to each other.

Have you got a gun?

No, well have you got a gun?

No.

Okay well fuck you then.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Those movies never really made much sense. Surely the first thing people would do is find a way to make money or get free stuff. Maybe you have a few enterprising bank robbers, but most people would probably just loot.

Granted, people get shot for way less in the US all the time, so maybe it's better to just stay home and get high.

[–] Rusky_900@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Fight. Then fuck. Then cigarettes.

[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I see this posted a lot. There’s a day missing and he fails to address it. There’s also leap year that’s not being addressed.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The day missing is New Years. Every four years you have have New New Years.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

After being shortchanged for so many years we give February 29 days and the new month can have the leap year.

I don’t really care about the days of the week always being the same.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can we just start with getting rid of daylight saving please.

[–] echodot 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Depends how close to the polar regions you live. If you live in Florida yeah sure daylight savings probably doesn't mean a lot to you but if you live in Northern Scandinavia you kind of require it in order to not go insane because you spend literally all your free time in eternal darkness.

I used to work in a server farm, a building with no windows, in the winter I'd get up and it would be dark, I would drive to work and it would be dark, I'd finished my day and then drive home and it would be dark. And then at some point they go yep this is the date we switch to daylight savings (which honestly should have been like a month ago but whatever) and it's like God suddenly remembered that the sun exists and should probably shine at some point.

So with respect, all you "let's get rid of daylight savings" people can sod off.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Move your work hours. Changing the fucking time on the wall so you can pretend you're NOT moving your work hours is asinine.

[–] echodot 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not in charge of my schedule though am I

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I live in Minnesota and what's more I work nights. I am more than familiar with never seeing the light of day especially durring the winter. Daylight savings can still fuck right off. There is no reason that we should literally be shifting the time of day for everyone just to accomodate a few individuals. If places want to shift their hours durring winter then they are more than welcome to do so. But as a whole time should be time. If a business wants it to be light when they open or close then they should have their hours reflect that. They can change their hours to be whatever they want. There's no reason that 9AM or something has to be the start of shift. Those times are entirely arbatrary. They could be anything. If you want to start your shift later then convince your employer to let you start your shift later. But don't tell me that everyone else needs to change their clocks to accommodate you.

Also if people really care about daylight savings then just leave it in place. It doesn't matter at all either way. Time is time. Let's just stop changing the damn clocks.

[–] echodot 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also if people really care about daylight savings then just leave it in place. It doesn't matter at all either way. Time is time.

You get how that's the same as not doing anything right? If you leave it in place all the time then daylight savings will break in the summer months and make it dark then.

Daylight savings is necessary because the time of sunrise and sunset changes over the course of the year it's exactly the same as having leap days to keep in sync with the orbit. Only cancels out 6 months later.

Daylight savings exists because it's easier to change the definition of time than it is to get companies to all alter their start and end times. Some companies would just not do it and it would be total chaos. Much easier for everyone just to stay in sync.

Anyway why do you care so much? Pretty much every phone and smart device just changes automatically so you hardly even notice anything has happened. Also I've just looked it up Minnesota is not that far north.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Oh wow, that would be thirteen months of 28 days each... Why aren't we doing this??? Can one of the thirteen months be a free vacation month???

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's a lot of better calendars out there but the Cosworth is arguably the best. The additional month is called Sol and is between June and July. Additional days for leap years and last day of year are treated like free days and the calendar pauses for them.

Kodak used it and everything from finance to pay to reporting was a breeze. I get to use it and the 4–4–5 calendar often in data analysis so that historical data is easier to segment and compare.

Apparently it's better known as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

[–] Uresname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Would you like a birthday on Monday every single year your entire life

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

im not who you were responding to but I would have no problem with my birthday always being a monday.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Sure! What's wrong with Mondays?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Hey, the day of the week you were born in might actually affect your personality.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

The time interval between a full moon and the next repetition of the same phase, a synodic month, averages about 29.53 days

So nah, it wouldn't align with the moon.

[–] Cosmicomical@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Why 4.257? It's 4.33 weeks per month

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Isnt this the format where your birthday would fall on the same exact day every year? That sounds like it sucks if your birthday is sometimes on a Monday.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

We can't improve the calendar, some people will have to celebrate their birthday on a day that isn't their real birthday like they already do most of the time!

[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you get birthday leave at your job, it would suck to not have your birthday on a weekday.
Realistically though, how often does a birthday fall on a weekday? 1/4, 1/5? I think eventually we'd be okay with it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dont think so. Anybody working retail or anything thats not an office suite would get fucked during the week permanently. They ain't getting birthday leave on a Wednesday at McDonald's.

[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Might be free food though 🤔

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Lol sorry you can't have the day off, here is a McDouble and we got one scoop of old soft serve out of the machine for you before it broke again.

[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Given that five days of the week are weekdays, it already would suck 5/7 of the time, but people already make do.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but we also aren't sentenced to a Wednesday birthday forever. Our birthdays are constantly on different days.

[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It feels like less of a big deal than you're making it out to be, but I might be too old and cynical.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm just discussing it. I wouldn't die on a monthly calender hill of any particular type to be honest lol

[–] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn't be on the same day every year because there would still be 1 extra day each year and 2 extra days on leap years. The proposed 13 month calendar would have a "month" that is just 1 or 2 days as "New Years". That would cause the days to shift over time.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, the extra days are "outside" the calendar, they're days of their own so regular calendar days don't shift year after year

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago