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We are digital librarians. Among us are represented the various reasons to keep data -- legal requirements, competitive requirements, uncertainty of permanence of cloud services, distaste for transmitting your data externally (e.g. government or corporate espionage), cultural and familial archivists, internet collapse preppers, and people who do it themselves so they're sure it's done right. Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Time (tm) ). Along the way we have sought out like-minded individuals to exchange strategies, war stories, and cautionary tales of failures.

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[–] odneh_@alien.top 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine keeping your only copies of files on google drive of all things... do people not know how to do proper backups?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

No, they really don't.

[–] lysnnn@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if this is just consumer accounts and if workspace accounts are affected or not.

[–] flecom@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think in the sysadmin sub some people were talking about data loss in their workspace accounts but I could be delusional

[–] Lysander_Propolis@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What does "consumer" and "workspace" mean in this context? "Google Workspace" pops up now whenever I start Gmail, so I figured it's just their new branding, but now I don't know what the difference is here.

[–] tsvk@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Paid organizational e-mail with a custom domain vs. free private e-mail with @gmail.com address.

[–] alfred725@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

time to double check my backups

[–] I_want_pudim@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I was affected!! It's so strange, first time something like this happened to me, it's like I won a local lottery or something, don't know what to feel now.

All my newer files are still there, but the older ones and all bin, zip, tar and 7zip are not there anymore.

So glad I started the homelab / self-hosted thing a few weeks ago, I have copies of everything locally on multiple storages.

[–] eriksrx@alien.top 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As the stickied post said, we shouldn't rely on cloud storage because X, Y, and Z but good god the whole point of these companies buying out missile silos, building in tons of redundancy, etc. was to prevent this shit. Google's billions are no better than my $500 NAS, it would appear.

[–] Ciff_@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Google's billions are no better than my $500 NAS, it would appear.

It probably is still better. They have a billion users. Not saying this is not bad, they have one job and it should not happen. But Ive lost equipment at home for different reasons even though raid, surge protection etc etc. I doubt I statisticly could do better.

[–] eriksrx@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Not with that attitude you won’t! You need multiple redundant RAID arrays with their own redundant RAID arrays to assert your dominance over data loss.

[–] 8_800_555_35_35@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Were you using the Drive Desktop client?

[–] I_want_pudim@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Not now, i installed it a couple of times before but never actively used it, nor do I have it installed at the moment on any machine, besides my android.

[–] yujuismypuppy@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Do you have any tips or tutorials to begin the homelab/self hosting?

[–] ExperimentalGoat@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Between this and the ZFS bug, a lot of people are having a bad week

[–] ThickSourGod@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do we know if there's a way for me to check if I've been effected without trying to download every file I have on Drive?

[–] leexgx@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Believe the files are just gone

[–] rookie-mistake@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good reminder to back mine up.

[–] RecipeNo101@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yup, doing a full local backup of all my Google data now. GDrive client hasn't been syncing for a few days on a couple of my machines for a couple weeks, but everything looks to be there.

[–] rrawk@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Not your keys, not your coins. Wait, where am I?

[–] baskura@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not your filing cabinet, not your files?

[–] AshleyUncia@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How about 'Not Your Drive, Not Your Data'?

[–] ClaudiuT@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

This is it. This is our mantra now.

[–] CaseyGuo@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

r/CoinHoarder

[–] Justsomedudeonthenet@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I bet there's at least one idiot out their with their bitcoin wallet stored on Google drive, and didn't bother to write down the seed...

[–] Tavapris04@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Buttcoin moment

[–] Most_Mix_7505@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It was only a matter of time considering how these companies consider consumers necessary pests and put the least possible effort in their services that are consumer facing.

[–] LAMGE2@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Im glad I got rid of that stupid ass desktop app but gotta go check my drive now… well i backed up data there just recently, hope its safe in both places

[–] Far_Marsupial6303@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

What's really scary is that even if it's just a fraction of a percent, it's still tens or hundreds of TB of what's stored there. *SHUDDER*

[–] Far_Marsupial6303@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ThickSourGod@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Makes you go...Hmmmm... LOL

Not really. Google has been getting progressively worse at search for years. The results were probably there, you just didn't see them under all the ads and sponsored results (AKA more ads).

[–] nikita2498@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

i have noticed in 2022 that some of my files have disappeared from Google Drive. It’s happening because of toxic 2020 purge

[–] rehashed1984@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So from the rest of the comments it seems to be the desktop client. That thing is a bit of a dog of a program to be honest. I have a couple of offsite backups. I think I will keep them as archival moving forward and get even more backup drives. Anyone know a good tool I can use on a mac to compare my old backups with my current drive contents to check for missing folders / files? I use freefilesync at the moment to backup my plex library, I suppose that would be a good place to start?

[–] The_Airwolf_Theme@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I use the client but only for streaming files, not sync. Maybe I'm in the clear?

[–] Calbone607@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

THERE ARE ONLY 2 FILES ON MY DRIVE LEFT WTF. Luckily i don't think i ACTUALLY lost anything, but what the hell!

[–] Dogework@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yuuuup... another reason why I'm glad to have spent nearly the GDP of a small country on my own NAS and backup drives...

[–] JonPaula@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago
[–] emprezario@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

This happened to me on aws last night. We woke up at all our database instances are deleted

[–] Cheeze_It@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yep, the cloud is always going to be more reliable than self hosted.

Mhmmm.....yep.....right....

[–] Sopel97@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Amazing website. I'm unable to load the last 10 messages. It says it loads them sucessfully but it does nothing.

[–] Herkules97@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The people in there are acting like they only uploaded their files to Google Drive? Is "I'll dump all my files on that one place" a common practice? I know it might be mainstream, but one guy says his company's files were only on there..How is something so important to you just backed up into one place? Not even locally? These commenters in that support thread are very odd.

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[–] armacitis@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Never forget,"the cloud" is just someone else's computer.

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