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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Someone post this on hexbear and send me a screenshot.

I'd do it myself but I value my sanity

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would, but I got banned for daring to disagree with their narratives. Apparently brigading other instances and users is fine, but you have the audacity to go there and debate their lunacy, and it's ban time.

[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago

I had to block their Instance. I am very sympathetic and generally agreeable to many communist ideals but their brigading and style of that community is annoying.

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

They deny wholehearted they don't brigade they'll call you a liar and say that's never happened

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could also just post on !memes@lemmy.ml, hexbear likes to hang out on there.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lemmy.ml has its own tankie groups, btw. Hexbear is just one of a few focal points.

To each their own. However, it's convenient to know when you are getting close to some type of military demarcation line. (Stray bullets can still fly across demilitarized zones, or, you start to see pro-communist graffiti a little more often, is what I am saying.)

Still, there is no harm in tossing some meme-loaded USB drives over the border to see what happens.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Congratulations, the .ml admins deleted it. Did they ban you too?

[–] Solaris1789@jlai.lu 15 points 1 year ago

Not so rare lemmy.ml L

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'll have to wait and see, I haven't got a message quite yet, but I entertain myself with an appeal.

[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Add Tibet, Xianchang, Manchuria, as separate countries and switch Inner Mongolia to being part of Mongolia and now we're getting somewhere.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Taiwan didn't even recognize Mongolia's independence until 2002. Good luck getting the KMT to accept Tibet's or Uyghurstan's independence.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Next thing you know, Western Taiwan decides it's time to make North Korea their brand new province, because "historic grounds" or something

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[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really hope China doesn't legitimately try to take Taiwan someday. Would be a terrible day for Earth.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Very likely within the next few years unfortunately

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I doubt it, there's not much for them to gain from it but a lot to lose

[–] DriftinGrifter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taiwan currently produces some of the worlds besteht chips via tsmc and holds a very powerfull geological Position in the "south china'' sea

[–] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Even if they managed to recover all chip factories after a full scale invasion (which the Taiwanese could easily sabotage), the production is based on a lot of western technology, which they couldn't replicate for decades. So the factories would be of little use.

Chinas economy is also very reliant on exports to western countries (US, Japan, Europe), if they invaded Taiwan that would plunge the world economy into the worst crisis ever seen that would hit China especially hard. They're already struggling with serious demographic and other economic issues that will put them into a difficult spot in the next decades. Invading Taiwan would be very, very terrible for basically everyone, and suicide for the CCP.

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[–] grayman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Q: How do you determine who is cheating in the online game you're playing?

A: Declare that Taiwan is best China. All the cheaters will start screaming.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

kinda weird to say all Chinese citizens are cheaters. and by weird I mean OVERTLY RACIST.

fuck the CCP but all 1.4 billion Chinese people are my homies. I aint gonna sit and listen to some little shit on lemmy call my homies cheaters

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[–] avrachan@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

is it racist to imply that it is only the chineese who cheat at online games?

who knows

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[–] Sophia7Inches@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

It's just blatant racism, why is it being upvoted

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[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How to piss off the PRC with one pic.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

I think it's just RoC by then

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, doesnt that kinda play into the PRC's narrative that Taiwan and China are the same country?

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The PRC and RoC share a lot of the same territorial disputes because they both view themselves as the one rightful Chinese government; they largely agree which land is "part of China". It's taking Taiwan's side because it's saying they should administer all of it.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't Taiwan largely still do this in the modern day because revoking those claims would be equivalent to declaring its formal independence as a separate country, which is something China has threatened would be met with invasion?

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like "say this or I punch your teeth in" kind of takes some of the legitimacy out of the statement, don't you?

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why people in the west care about this territorial conflict.

It is clearly a strategic conflict for USA and allies to keep China at distance and reduce their ability to move further.

But for people to keep talking about it like it is a ( good vs evil ) feels like propganda by USA military or something.

If we imagine a world where china without Nuclear weapons, so Nato can stop them anytime, I dont think the USA media will care about them.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Because a global power engaging in aggressive colonialism is bad - even when it's not the US doing it.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Why shouldn't we care about the land and people they said they'd take by force if need be? Really?

[–] sirmanleypower@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty clear that having a strategic partner in that part of the world is a net positive for western counties. Also Taiwan supplies a huge fraction of our computer chips.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

That they managed to utterly dominate the chipmaking market and use that as a leverage to make allies was a real master move. The pandemic and the whole supply chain troubles giving a wake up call that "all eggs in one basket" is bad sure got them worried, tho.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

Nah, Taiwan only avoids forsaking these claims because doing so would be interpreted as a formal declaration of independence, prompting an invasion.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

Why are you including Tibet in that?

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Shouldn't the one at the top be East Ukraine on the same basis?

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Taiwan (or The Republic of China) is a special case in that it doesn't want independence from the PRC*, but rather they claim that all of China is part of the ROC and is illegally occupied by the PRC. The PRC, likewise, views Taiwan as a rebellious little part of their own country.

*I learned just now that there's a political movement that eschews this view and instead just wants sovereignty for the land currently owned by Taiwan.

Anyway, as far as I know, Ukraine doesn't make any similar claims to Russia (except for certain contested areas).

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[–] ira@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but this is literally true, broth the PRC and the ROC claim to be the real china

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but also remove all the borders

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I'm so sick of this"West Taiwan" crap. It plays into the PRC narrative that China and Taiwan are inseparable. Most Taiwanese just want to live their lives without needing to worry about China invading. The official ROC territorial claims remain in part due to the 2005 Anti-Secession law of the PRC. The law provides a legal mandate to invade if Taiwan were to declare formal independence. In general the only people in Taiwan who want to govern China are older nationalists.

[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Couldn't help but notice Honk Kong (UK) sticking out like a sore thumb. Anyways f*** imperialism/colonialism!

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