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The Department of Justice said Tuesday it was abandoning the defense of Trump in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case.

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[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still upset they even remotely considered denying rape allegations and mocking the victim acting within the scope of his office and employment as POTUS...

[–] bucho@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Take solace in the fact that bureaucracy is a hindrance to morality. An individual employee of the US DOJ could be completely mortified by the idea of supporting Trump, but the bureaucratic handcuffs on that employee force him/her to run it past legal before making a decision. And legal's concerns are wider than just whether they will protect this one man. That one man happened to be president, through some unfortunate and wildly incomprehensible series of events. So their question is whether they will defend a president from some allegations of misconduct that had a tenuous connection with his presidency.

And while every normal person within that select group would be morally outraged by the idea of supporting a president in this instance, they would have to defer to their colleagues because the question is broader than one president. It's a matter of whether their organization will support any president given these circumstances. And because the question is necessarily broadened, it would require consensus, which requires time.

So once again, bureaucracy hinders common sense. But, ultimately, they made the right decision. Unfortunately, because of the red tape, it was sufficiently delayed that they defended the scumbag for a period of time. But now they're not, and that's good news.

[–] Flag@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Hermes Conrad would be proud.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like weaponized bureaucracy imho... but I hope/wish it went down the way you suggested...

[–] bucho@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not going to say that there are no Trumpers in the DoJ. Republicunts are drawn to law enforcement, after all. But Trump went out of his way to go after several branches and employees of the DoJ both during, and after his presidency. So I'd imagine his support there would be thinner than otherwise suspected.

[–] brothershamus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes and he attacked the CIA many times, the FBI directly, the military - what - a hundred times? And they all still have large vocal supporters or at least pitifully few examples of anyone working against him.

They either can't tie their shoes for being useless or there's some serious bullshit afoot.

[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This was immediately paywalled for me with a request for free registration.

[–] bucho@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here you go. Pro tip: you can bypass any article paywall by archiving the page. Just copy the article's url, and paste it into a site like archive.li.

[–] brothershamus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I appreciate that, but that should be the OP link, y'know?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I've considered suggesting that paywalled links shouldn't be permitted (I'm one of the new mods). I wonder whether others would generally agree.

[–] bucho@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Preaching to the choir.

[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much!

[–] kuontom@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I see. Thanks for pointing it out. The Daily Beast has never asked me for a sign up or anything so I posted. I'll copy all the article text into the post body from now on.