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[–] Capital-Can4210@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The iPhone would still be 3.5”

[–] KurtKoksbain@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

unqualified BS

[–] BruteSentiment@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The iPhone isn’t a question. Its roadmap up to the X was probably set by that point.

It’s the iPad and Mac evolutions that probably would’ve been very different, though the move to the M chips was probably the plan back then.

[–] Kevin1056@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I don’t think they planned upto iPhone X in 2011

[–] Nichigan90@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think you’re underestimating the iPhone design cycle timeline

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[–] medicalgringo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The iPhone isn’t a question. Its roadmap up to the X was probably set by that point.

It’s the iPad and Mac evolutions that probably would’ve been very different, though the move to the M chips was probably the plan back then.

i agree at all. but what would be different in iPhone after x series?

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[–] ricosuave79@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The notch never would have happened. I mean, Steve obsessed over the perfect font. You think he would have given that thing the green light?

[–] turbodude69@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

yeah prob no notch, and for sure no notch on the laptop. like i understand the notch on the iphone. but why the fuck does a laptop that doesn't even have FaceID need a notch?

[–] bat29@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I don’t want faceID on my macbook. it’s perfect for the phone, while touchID is perfect for laptop

[–] UGMadness@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still suspect Apple had plans made for adding FaceID to the MacBook Pro redesign but they couldn’t work out the sensors in time, but the design was already done. Then the notch has already become a design element so now they’re stuck adding it to all new laptops to maintain software parity between models.

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[–] lucellent@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You can't 100% be sure about that, the notch couldn't be avoided with the X unless they didn't add FaceID and only kept a single punch hole camera there

This, or the iPhone would still have uneven bezels on the top and bottom like before.

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[–] frumpydrangus@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No pro/base models, not a bunch of colors. Silver or space gray and probably 2 storage options. No max or mini either

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[–] MorePropaganda@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Sideloading would already be a thing and the back wouldn’t be made out of glass by now

[–] ivanhoek@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

iPhone mini would be the regular size.

[–] eovapntw@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The “unwanted mini” fiasco would have played out very differently if the 5.4 was the “iPhone” and the 6.1 was the “iPhone Plus”. Besides that would make the distinction between Plus and Max make much more sense

[–] MassiveBeatdown@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think we would have had big iPhones. Think they would be about the size of the X as a max. Jobs was very keen on the design of being able to navigate with one finger and reach all of the screen while the phone is held in your hand. If that makes any sense…?

[–] RepMajor@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Agree , in the first iPhone release show he hammered that point home many times

[–] aziz224@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can recall people arguing about the iPhone’s screen size being too small around the time Steve Jobs died, so I think the size increase has more to do with market demand rather than anything else.

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[–] fabrictm@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lots of stainless steel ;-) He loved the patina look on stainless [ipods]

[–] Vinyl-addict@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SS rails never aged well though imo

[–] fabrictm@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

No I don’t like the look of ss all scratched up either, so I’d slap an ugly car on my beautiful iPod

[–] OnesPerspective@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

iPhone Aesthetics would be slightly different. No notch and I would guess the camera wouldn’t protrude so the phone can lie completely flat on a table

[–] Haunting-Ad9507@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Nope and nope

[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

lol so no front facing camera and no changes to quality of the cameras.

As if.

If anything. The type of design trends we saw (and largely hated) under Johnny Ive would have continued for longer under Steve.

Phones would likely be thinner and smaller.

[–] PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (6 children)

lol so no front facing camera and no changes to quality of the cameras.

That’s really what you took from that statement?

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[–] Alwaysaprairiegirl@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The camera mountain on the back would have been flat. Maybe the phone would have been thicker with a better battery but it wouldn’t just bulge out.

[–] GenghisFrog@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not so sure. A phone as thick as the camera hump would be way more unwieldy than you think. And filling it with battery would make it very heavy. If they decided to keep the cameras shallow then the iPhone would be massively behind in camera taking ability.

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[–] Izanagi___@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I can fit my 14 in jeans with a case on and a card holder on the back just fine. A phone that thick would be an absolute nightmare lmao

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[–] turbodude69@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

probably wouldn't be quite as big

[–] dbun1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I think we wouldn’t have seen such rushed and buggy iOS releases.

Max size phones would be interesting as one of the big design philosophies was being able to reach the whole screen with one hand.

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[–] Reddit_is_snowflake@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Definitely lots of stainless steel…

[–] KurtKoksbain@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

fingerprint reader like on iPads in the power Button, no big noch, probably a teardrop Design, or a notch with better Design. the only good thing about the notch was the unique (but ugly) Design.

i guess the camera bump would be less noticable, maybe not even there, but a bigger battery. USB C would have been there as soon as the iPad had them. no lightning on airpods, this stupid apple pencil thing would never happen. maybe reberse charge from ipad to iphone or iphone to airpods.

[–] phiupan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They could indeed fill all the space to align the camera with battery. 1 week battery life :)

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[–] tecky1kanobe@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

No unsymmetrical camera bump.

[–] Papafigos_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Smaller I reckon

[–] TheFcknVoid@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It wouldn’t have an ugly ass notch, that’s for sure.

[–] GeniusEE@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

iPhone would not have been included in PRISM ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM ) before Jobs' body reached room temperature -- he told the spooks to f*ck off while everybody else fell into line, including Zuckerberg.

I suspect they Shah of Iran'd him for it.

[–] akrapov@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Comments here are mostly “Steve wouldn’t have had this thing I didn’t like” - most of them ignoring the drawbacks the iPhones had under Steve. Oh it would’ve been flat on a table? Like the 3G? It would’ve had a headphone jack? Because Stephen famously loved buttons and ports?

[–] Lordmorgoth666@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think this is one of those things where people get to air their grievances with iPhone while not actually saying “I personally think (whatever) is terrible.”. They won’t get flamed as bad in the comments because they’re not saying it. They’re saying “It’s what Steve would have wanted.”

Steve was neurotic about certain specific things and it’s impossible to know what would have triggered him in the later iterations of Apple products.

[–] DigitalKungFu@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We still wouldn’t have a frekk’n calculator on the iPad

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[–] lost_in_life_34@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

no large screen iphone, SJ liked small phones

the app store wouldn't be as big as it is now because he was a control freak

the OS would still be simple because he was about having computers be as simple to use as the old 90's appliances because it was still early in computing

IOS wouldn't not be as integrated and have so many common features with other products

back in the SJ days apple was organized around products and the product teams all wrote their own software from a common code base they branched. Now apple is organized with software being separate from products and this is why we have texting on macbooks, etc

[–] zaphodakaphil@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You might just have asked one of the most profound questions in this decade. Who or why did you ask this question??? I am not joking

[–] lostinmusic1980@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

They wouldnt be coming out every year with only small changes to the iPhone . Now every dam phone maker seems to be doing it .sometimes its not the hardware that needs improving but the software

[–] KingMax17@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We don’t know coz we aren’t Jobs. There’s only 1 Steve Jobs.

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[–] Hubris1998@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It'd be smaller and still have bezels

[–] ShreddityReddity@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

when i was a teenager, i asked my mom how she thought steve jobs (like, 1970s jobs) would react to an iMac made today. she responded with "steve jobs would probably say it sucks, and that he could make one better".

that always stuck with me as something profound

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[–] macamc1983@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Apple was never the same after jobs

[–] moodswung@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think the merge to full blown Macs would have happened by now, if not with phones; definitely iPads. With the M1 the fact that we aren't there at this point is almost inexcusable.

Steve wanted profits but he also seemed equally focused on innovations as well. Apple has become a profit forward company that seems to hold back innovations purely in the name of profits. Efforts on next-gen are stifled to fill tiny gaps so there's always room for the "next" thing; rather than setting sights high and pushing for another leap forward.

[–] catgirlishere@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I would be surprised if Apple did't decide early on to make iOS built on-top of Android instead of the XNU based platform they have today.

[–] RichardXV@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Probably there would be no max plus bigly professional super version.

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