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[–] clif@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, they short changed the horse:

Over a short period of time, they calculate, a horse can exert up to 14.9 horsepower.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't horse power intended to represent the average energy output of a horse over a working day, rather than a brief maximum?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Yes, it was.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

OK, just to sanity check, because it's not clear from the comments below.

We all realize that metric areas do use hp for car engines as well, right?

And a lot of them also do inches for TVs, which is weird and forces you to go digging into the specs for the cm measurements whenever you want to see if a TV will fit in a space.

EDIT: Oh, I'm wondering now, do people use liters/cc for engine volumes in the US? I don't know, but I also haven't ever heard of a different way to refer to engine volume ever, so they must. What would they use instead?

EDIT 2: For my money the most annoying unit conversion in car measurements is the US going for miles per gallon, keeping the volume of fuel constant and giving you the distance while metric uses liters per 100km, keeping the distance and giving you the volume of fuel. It may as well be impossible to convert between the two.

[–] BluesF 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the UK we use metric and imperial so you can buy things in kilos but also measure your efficiency in MPG. Welcome to the island of the future/past.

somewhere jacob rees mogg just let out a sob

[–] Fonderthud@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Engine displacement is measured in liters or cc as standard. Harley Davidson demands in using cubic inches though.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Its just the old air cooled dinosaur old-man Harleys that show their engines in cubic inches. Here's a 975cc Harley. Here is a 750cc Harley. The sportsters have been listed in cc's for decades.

Suzuki does it too, on their cruisers. Like the M109.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't know that and it is hilarious.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Its also incorrect for about half the bikes harley makes...

And don't look too closely at cruisers from Suzuki.

[–] Still@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we have to dig to the specs for tv size cuz the size of tvs is the diagonal screen area not the actual size

we use cubic centimeter for small displacement engines where the whole displacement is measured (is car) and cubic inches for the large ones where the displacement is measured per cylinder (ie trains)

yup, reciprocal area measurements are a pain

[–] WoefKat@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much do you weigh? As much as 11 stones and 2 pebbles.

How far is that? 2 feet and 5 thumbs.

How fast are we going? About 6 knots in a rope that's hanging overboard.

It does make me laugh sometimes sorry. But the real problem is not the base units.. It's the multiplication factor.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

I agree that most of the imperial system sucks, but knots (and by extention nautical miles) have a good reason for being used everywhere when navigating long distances around the globe because both are based on the way coordinates work.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My electric vehicle, when set to imperial, will display charging speed in horsepower.

Apparently a wall outlet can provide 3.2 horsepower.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago

Checks out, that's 2,610 watts, or about a 20A circuit at 120V.

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Giving me horsepower for the motor output instead of kilowatts kind of makes sense, but it changes everywhere.

The battery just displays as a percentage, otherwise it might tell me the energy remaining in horsepower hours.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's 149KW (200hp) on that tiny car? That sounds like a hoot to drive

[–] Skua@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Fortwo never got anywhere near that much power, not even the Brabus versions. Toyota did make a one-off version of the similarly-sized Aygo called the Aygo Crazy which really did have 200hp and RWD though, so the idea did actually come into being at least once

[–] notepass@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man I wanna drive one of those on the autobahn. Probably would take on a Porsche or something with that weight to power ratio.

[–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

And then fly away when the wind picks up

[–] png@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Skua@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That thing must be terrifying to drive

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ironic.

The American truck complaining that the EU is too regulated, while in the US something as simple as headlights are so overregulated they blind people while driving.

In the EU the headlights simply aim their lights away from incoming traffic automatically, which was a crime in the US until like last year.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

In the EU the headlights simply aim their lights away from incoming traffic automatically, which was a crime in the US until like last year.

That only works like half the times at best. I'm still constantly getting my eyes lasered by big ass SUVs while driving at night. Not even counting the people that have misadjusted headlights.

[–] korewa@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Which cars do these now in the US?

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

1 Nm/s = 1 watt. It's a measure of power, not force

[–] spicystraw@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So is horsepower, whats your point?

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] spicystraw@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, thats true, didn`t read the meme properly the first time.

[–] DrCatface@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

sorry pocket reply

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ok, i'm gonna be that guy.

Newton meters (Nm) is a measure of torque.

While horse power (HP) is a measure of engine power.

You obviously cannot convert one into the other because they mean different things.

Also, when EVs eventually become the mayority, the kilowatt (kW) is gonna take over as the new standard for measuring engine power.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Joules actually are Newton-metres, in a sense. A joule is (genuinely) defined as the work done when a 1 Newton force displaces a mass by one metre. So as long as you're willing to risk the Bureau international des poids et mesures assassinating you for your physics crimes, you can totally pretend that Newton-metres are for measuring energy and Nm/s is a reasonable way to measure power. While you're at it, you should measure torque in Coulomb-volts for the same reason

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

N*m/s, not Nm. That's energy in joules. Still not power (J/s, which can convert to HP) though...

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think that's the joke: Americans don't care about efficency, only power.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is, one horse tops out at about 15 horsepower of force.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

15 ANSI horses, or 15 ISO horses?

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It's a waste to make a 500hp truck when you could make two 250hp trucks instead

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago

Op truck because one horse is up to 15hp. That truck would be 7500hp 💀

[–] threethan@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I made this as a total shitpost but I'm loving the informative comments. Godwin's law at its finest.

congress should introduce all bills originally as shitposts

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, that truck must have about ~~7,450hp~~ 2,850hp ! 😲

[–] ThePJN@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bah! Most people have never even seen a horse. I never would have, had we not been dragged to see the pervert horse ballet when it came to town.

[–] FeeshyFish@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A fellow PHB enjoyer, I see!

[–] ThePJN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

See! This freak gets it!