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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are plenty of people living with disabilities who are willing and able to work from home, the problem is the lack of employers willing to accommodate them. Plenty of people without disabilities would benefit from that too.

But making meaningful reforms to improve our society isn't very Tory, so better just call disabled people lazy instead.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Tories wouldn't know an honest day of hard work or "doing their duty" if it came and bribed them to their faces. Scumbags.

Every time one of them says or does pretty much anything, it makes me wonder how on Earth anybody votes for these soulless freaks and weirdos. Ah well, at least nobody who's put their penis in a dead pig's mouth is in charge of anything, right? That'd be fucking mental.

[–] Devi@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a delusion that happens with people who are doing well, healthwise, moneywise, career wise, that what they have is possible if you just work hard. It's why people will say to cancer sufferers "Have you tried healthy eating?" or other ridiculous things, they think that those bad things happening to other people must be their own fault.

Those people, the ones that look down on the others, who think their circumstances are their fault, they don't want stuff like the NHS, or benefits, that's just rewarding stupid decisions like getting cancer, becoming homeless, or being born in a warzone.

[–] Hossenfeffer 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Spot on. They confuse their privilege with merit. They think they're wealthy because they worked, not because of the advantages they are laden with.

Like Trump with his: "It has not been easy for me, it has not been easy for me. And you know I started off in Brooklyn, my father gave me a small loan of a million dollars."

[–] Devi@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Trump is the king of missing his privilege!

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Of course there should be support for people to help them into work but ultimately there is a duty on citizens if they are able to go out to work they should. Those who can work and contribute should contribute.”

There's not a tonne superficially wrong with it phrased in these terms. I think there are plenty of disabled people who are able and willing to work from home and there should be government support to help them get such jobs. There are plenty of non-disabled people who work from home most/all the time these days also.

But I think the thing that pushes it over the edge is the unnecessary double reference to people needing to do their 'duty' and to 'contribute' - it's framing the matter in a way that presupposes disabled people are some sort of burden, whilst seeming superficially reasonable. Classic Tory dog whistle.

I'd rather go after her for that than for the reasonable suggestion that disabled people can work from home when they're able to.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, well said. Though, I do think it's more than just framing--they are stating that disabled people are a social burden, if they're not working when they could be.

Whether you agree with that seems to be beside the point, which to me is that societies should seek to take care of their people. The Tory ethos (much like the Republicans in the United States) is that anyone using social programs or services is guilty of taking advantage of society unless they demonstrably prove otherwise. That's an ugly way to think, in my opinion.

Especially when the people saying it typically benefit in myriad and lucrative ways from the structure of society.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will the british government grant them Jobs, if no employer is found then?

Ahh no, of course there is no money to finance the government offices and services for citizens turn more and more to shit.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the training that they will need to transition in a field that has work from home, I am sure the Torys wont have and that this isn't pointless cruelty designed to appeal to their base while helping to fund yet another huge increase in the state pension.

[–] Devi@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, they'll just fine them handsomely.

[–] HumanPenguin 25 points 1 year ago

Typical of tories. To assume all brits have a duty to the nation. But only the rich havea right for the government to protect them.

Basically tories feel fudalism is still how the world should work.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol to think I dreamt of one day migrating to the English countryside when I was little. Today you couldn't pay me to move to that shithole.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

With the way the housing market has gone in a lot of desirable countryside areas, you probably couldn't be paid enough to buy a house out there.

[–] Chouxfleur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What's the countryside got to do with shitty governance and disability policy?

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Work sets you free” says the British government.

[–] Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

They should drop the pretenses and rename DWP to Aktion T4. It does the same thing.

[–] Lifebandit666 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, wage slavery sets us all free great capitalist overlords. War is peace.

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

sounds great. what exactly will you be paying me to do?

[–] florge 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If a job is able to be done fully remotely, a company will outsource it to somewhere like the philippines rather than pay someone UK wages.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not always. Most and more companies are discovering the problems with culture and timezone mismatches. UK work from home still has a place.

The catch is this is generally for better paying roles. The bottom of the barrel ones go abroad. Unfortunately the Tories are likely trying to force disabled people into exactly these roles. 🤬

[–] Hossenfeffer 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"You have been reported for non-compliance in your working-from-home role as a supermarket shelf stacker. You were offered full and complete training and the opportunity to work from home and yet the Tesco Superstore to which you were assigned reports that you have stacked no shelves. You will be sanctioned - including, but not limited to, your entire benefits entitlement - for a period of not less than 60 months. Those benefits will, instead, be paid directly to the shareholders of Tesco plc.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Outsourcing has been around much longer than the recent trend for home working, but the remote outsourcing apocalypse has still yet to appear. Whenever it's attempted it turns out outsourcing many kinds of jobs is a lot harder than it seems.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

They need folks that can do the work and outsourcing has proven mostly a failure in that.

[–] Kben@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

They really are ghouls.After attacking desperate asylum seekers they now move on to the sick and disabled.Cruelty that would make Fred west blush.

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They won't be happy until the sick and poor are back in the workhouses like the 19th century.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They won’t be happy until the sick and poor are ~~back in the workhouses like the 19th century~~ dead and no longer a burden

Fixed that for you.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Margaret Thatcher 2.0 appears to have been fully activated.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I thought that was May and then Truss

I'm starting to think we're just seeing beta versions rather than the final 2.0 release. Or is this more of a Norton antivirus thing where every subsequent release is less effective than the previous?

[–] palordrolap@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

May could have been a good Thatcher but for the lack of balls. Truss could have been a good Thatcher but for the lack of a brain.

The former, a school administrator elevated well beyond her abilities, the latter, a child with a head full of Tory rhetoric but no means to innovate or extrapolate.

In a way, we should be glad we got them and not Maggies mark 2.

[–] Hossenfeffer 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thatcher 2.0 will feature a lot more antipersonnel weapons for direct engagement with the poor.

Imagine a decaying zombie Maggie with one hand replaced with a circular-saw, the other with a gutting-hook, and one eye replaced with a lazer.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

And smelling of urine and feces

[–] charlytune@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

And yet when disabled staff request home working in many organisations (including the civil service) they face a battle.

[–] EdanGrey@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I sometimes wonder if our ministers have been replaced by soulless void creatures

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a harrowing thought, that we won't get a chance to vote this neoliberalist wankstain out for another couple of years.

[–] HumanPenguin 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some slightly good news. Jan 25 is the latest. As they are unlikely to want an election nr xmas. Less then a year is probable.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's hoping. I was born in '88 and remember a time when people's worth wasn't tied to their monetary value. What a crazy concept.

[–] HumanPenguin 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

1970 myself. So you missed most of it. Thatcher ideal was well and trully embeded by your time.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


People with mobility and mental health problems will be asked to work from home or lose benefits as part of what a government minister described today as doing “their duty”.

The new policy will be set out on Wednesday as part of the autumn statement amid a drive by Rishi Sunak to make changes to the welfare system, which he described on Monday as “unsustainable”.

Hundreds of thousands of people will be told to look for work that they can do from home or face having benefits cut by £4,680 a year, under plans that were first reported by the Times.

Charities have already warned that DWP plans to tighten health-related benefits – which are provided to more than 3 million working-age adults in the UK – could cause “huge anxiety” and mean “sanctions” for disabled people.

Tony Wilson, the director of the Institute for Employment Studies, told the Guardian in September that extra support to help disabled people into work should not come with such stringent conditions.

Speaking on Monday in London about the plans to make changes to benefits, the prime minister said : “We believe in the inherent dignity of a good job.


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[–] Hossenfeffer 11 points 1 year ago

Speaking on Monday in London about the plans to make changes to benefits, the prime minister said : “We believe in the inherent dignity of a good job.

Ironic, given what a shit job you're doing as PM, Rishi.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Just like the #GOP, the #Tories are hurting as many people on their way out as they possibly can. The cruelty is the point with #fascists.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well it sure would be a shame of this lady had some serious health issues one day and had to experience what is is like to become disabled and have your life taken away from you.

Then some asshole comes along and tells you to get to work while you can't even get out of bed most days.

[–] sirico 3 points 1 year ago

'Their duty' from this gaggle ok then

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Zwangsarbeit.