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[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 176 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Finally, detecting a decline in Trump may be challenging because his language and reasoning skills started at such a low place.

Savage ... And well deserved

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The last time this came up everyone agreed Trump is in fact a dummy, but still spent the whole thread fighting with each other over when exactly he became dumb.

I'm still in team always was dumb, BTW.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Didn't his university professor say that trump was the stupidest student he'd ever taught.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He was always a dumbass.

Can we also agree he’s gotten dumber?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

He used to be merely a terrible idiot, but he's become like a Roald Dahl caricature of a stupid man who only thinks bad thoughts

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, there's interviews of his floating around from the early 90s where he was still pretty clearly a self important fucking idiot, but he was significantly more coherent.

[–] devz0r@kbin.social 70 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Y’all I can’t go through this anti Trump circlejerk anymore. It’s exhausting. Imprison him or something but god I don’t give a fuck about this shit anymore.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 83 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Unfortunately the pro Trump propaganda is strong. If the opposition isn't reminding people how horrible he is he'll get free advertising again and win.

If you don't want to see it either block all political communities or get off social media.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Trump is old, but he appears energetic. He's boisterous and aggressive, both traits appeal to his base. They don't care if he gaffs or gets countries wrong.

Edit: based on people's reactions, somehow you seem to think I'm endorsing him or like him. I do not.

To be clear, I'm trying to honestly assess why he might have a chance at winning. Our republic is fucked if he wins.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Have you seen his latest rallies? He has nowhere near the energy he did in 2016. He rambles about the dumbest shit, loses the plot, can't tell countries and world leaders apart, just an overall mess. His previous attacks were pretty stupid but focused and determined. Now all he does is whine about how unfair the judges in his cases are. It's low energy. Sad. Yeah, a lot of his base won't care, but Maga Republicans have been getting absolutely bitch slapped at the voting booth.

[–] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He rambles about the dumbest shit, loses the plot, can't tell countries and world leaders apart, just an overall mess.

I legit cannot tell if you mean now or in the past.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah he's definitely always done this, but now it's even worse and extremely low energy.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The endless torrent of lawsuits is wearing him down, or at least I hope.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Both? Trump has never actually understood what he says if it wasn't about himself.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Pretending like he doesn't have a chance is what got him in power the first time. I don't typically love polling, but you should look at the numbers. If Trump wins again, our republic is done.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why you're being downvoted, you're not wrong. He absolutely does give off the impression that he's young and energetic to his voterbase, purely because of what you said.

Before anyone gets upset with me as well, consider how Trump's cult, and America in general, views traits like boisterousness or aggressiveness. To them, those are young/middle-age traits, not dementia-addled senior citizen traits.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nuance gets lost. I don't know why.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

The bigger your audience, the more nuance is lost. People in large groups are bad at thinking because the group energy takes over. Which I think explains Trump's success. Individual Republicans think he's dumb as a box of rocks but get them all together in one place and they start chanting death to libs while he conducts the symphony. All nuance about specific facts or policies are thrown out the window and it reverts to pure tribalism. When everyone around you is shouting hatred, that isn't the time to interrupt and point out that maybe the enemy isn't that bad.

I'm not dumb enough to think that doesn't happen on the left as well to an extent, but currently at least it seems a much bigger problem on the right. I hope once Trump is out of the way, no one else is quite able to capture that spark again.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 10 points 11 months ago

I wish we could. God, I wish we could. The cult's too strong though, so everyone has to use the "premature baby gloves" when they're handling him.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah bruv, we have to take this shitcunt seriously and grind him into a fine orange dust.

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[–] boblin@infosec.pub 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Don't you think he looks tired?"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

If only that worked in the U.S. Mitch McConnell would be gone.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’d prefer to notice that he’s really incarcerated.

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I will celebrate the day he dies in prison

His lies killed my grandfather, his hands are dripping with blood

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Has Anyone Noticed That Trump Is A Big Fat Doodie Head?

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If Trump is elected in 2024 he'll be the oldest president ever (at the end of his term)

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Donald Trump is so stupid. He can’t make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich because he lost the recipe.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Will they let him use his orange foundation in prison?

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, he'll have to get a full body orange tattoo before he goes in.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm genuinely curious what will happen to the GQP when trump dies, no matter what the reason is.

There's lots of talk about how someone worse would step in and take his place, but I can't help but notice that every "replacement" that has been put forward (like Desantis) is made fun of and rejected by the rightoids.

There are people now who have made "trump supporter" their personality. Those are the people who still vote for him, those are the people all the other conservative weirdos are trying to court for votes. So what happens when he dies?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know, but I guarantee you that the QAnon die hards will refuse to ever believe he's dead. Even if they're still around 50 years from now.

[–] sirmanleypower@lemmy.one 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think they'll believe it, but I think you'll have to work really hard to convince them it was natural causes.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

he will be simultaneously alive and murdered. that's what makes it so compelling.

Like now, he is simultaneously the secret sitting president and Biden is doing a terrible job.

good times.

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe one of his sons would take over? It's hard to imagine the MAGA crew moving on. Even people Trump explicitly endorses don't always seem to get their full support...

Eh, they'll probably just call the obituary 'fake news' and try to elect his corpse into office.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Eh, they'll probably just call the obituary 'fake news' and try to elect his corpse into office.

Isn't that what the Reagan years were all about? Weekend at Ronnie's.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even people Trump explicitly endorses don't always seem to get their full support...

That right there is the issue. There are of course two ways that the former president could leave this world - suddenly, or over a period of time. Does he spend two weeks slowly getting worse, giving The Apparatus time to make plans, or does he fall over dead one night facedown in his chicky nuggies?

Either way the "supporters" will get mad and loud and threaten violence but... I'm not as worried about that as I used to be. I live in a deep red state that went 85%-90% to trump in 2020. I know many of the people who support him. Remember that middle-aged couple in 2020 that were waving guns around in front of their mcmansion to protect themselves from "protesters" that were nowhere near them? That's a pretty typical template. If there were actual people in the area doing actual harm they would be hiding inside behind locked doors.

Nobody is going to rise up when he dies. They'll scream and cry and blame gay people, and they will continue to do so until the Next Thing distracts them.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I vote chicky nuggies.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 13 points 11 months ago

Donald Trump. Did he shit his pants again? Just asking questions.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago

In everyone’s defense, it’s hard to remember sometimes

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Don't you think he looks tired?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And can't string 5 words together.

[–] Thrickles@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

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