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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1303201

We've installed Voyager and it's reachable at https://m.lemmy.world, you can browse Lemmy, and login there (also if your account isn't on lemmy.world)

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[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] revs 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is there a benefit to using the Voyager hosted on the Lemmy server vs direct from vger.app? Any downsides

[–] basskitten@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Benefit: My password autofill works because the domain is lemmy.world instead of voyager.app.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just autofill. If it's a different domain, the proxy host is reading your password and sending it though to Lemmy to log you in.

This won’t be the case as soon as Lemmy.world fixes their CORS policy.

[–] revs 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you happen to be using 1Password, you can search and do a one time fill.

[–] basskitten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh I can still do it with iCloud passwords, it’s just not as convenient.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago

Based on a comment by @ruud@lemmy.world it looks like they're just using a docker container, only takes seconds to update. He said he'd probably set up Watchtower which auto updates containers so it should be only an hour or so behind.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Downside from what I understand would be potentially delayed updates depending on how they pull the codebase

[–] Streetdog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one hosted closer to you gives (slightly) better performance.

Correct me if I'm wrong, m.lemmy.world = Finland, vger.app (formerly wefwef.app) = US.

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty marginal though (after tonight). Once the app is installed, all requests will go directly to lemmy.world (after tonight) and response times should be exactly the same.

[–] Streetdog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's great to hear. Thanks for your hard work! Tonight was a good night!

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

When you're using vger hosted on a different domain, your password has to be read by them and sent to the Lemmy server to log you in.

If it's on the same server, the pw stays in the one system (albeit it might still need to go through the two pieces of software, idk how it's configured).

[–] lucas@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fantastic. Hopefully this becomes the default and helps to keep your server costs manageable.

[–] rust@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also most popular servers are no longer proxied (or else soon), so that should help a lot I think.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 year ago

I was wondering when other admins would start doing this! I've had mine up at app.thelemmy.club for a week or two.

[–] G0FuckThyself@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What is the difference between wefwef and m.lemmy.world?

[–] Fingerthief@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I assume the idea is to give people an easy and nice looking default mobile experience for lemmy users without users having to go find things like wefwef/voyager themselves.

[–] G0FuckThyself@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's nice.

[–] DrQuint@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Wefwef is an an web app, like an app, but that runs powered by your phone's web browser, usually accessible through a URL and you can then install it.

m.lemmy.world is just a page, hosted by lemmy.world. Typically, it should have just had a mobile view of the usual lemmy frontend. But what this announcement is saying is that Wefwef was made the official mobile frontend for that website, and thus, going to that page will show you the contents through a wefwef view.

Also replace all places where I wrote wefwefs with voyager, since they rebranded.

[–] Reliant1087@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

m.address is using voyager as the interface for lemmy.world. Like m.wikipedia has a mobile layout for Wikipedia.

[–] rust@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There is no difference, it’s two websites hosting the same software. The idea I think is to use wefwef as the mobile view for lemmy.world, since you can also use it straight from your browser (the beauty of a web app!).

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Im a big Trek fan and don’t hate the name, but I found wefwef much more unique and memorable.

What is the reason you switched off that name?

[–] Bosa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Awesome thanks for keep updating the app/website stuff. Voyager is the best Lemmy client out there.

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