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Will we all be fucked or is there a Linus 2?

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 265 points 1 year ago (19 children)

We've all agreed that when he dies it would be disrespectful to keep using Linux so we'll pack it up and switch to Windows from them on.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 122 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The year of the netbsd desktop is finally here.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

what's the bsd equivalent to arch

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think BSD is the BSD equivalent to arch.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

I'll go back to HaikuOS, it should be ready by then. ReactOS will still be working on Win98 support.

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[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 203 points 1 year ago (2 children)

GNU will spring their plan into motion for world domination, and send anyone who has said Linux and not GNU/Linux to GNUlag

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'll reveal that GNU was actually Unix all along.

[–] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 59 points 1 year ago

GNU is Now Unix

[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That devious Joseph Stallman!

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will finally release HURD

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The real HURD is the friends we made along the way.

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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 155 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We're actually on the 10th Linus now, so the next one will be LinuXI

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stupid God-Emperor keeps ordering all these gholas

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 139 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Nothing. Linus doesn't personally do coding on the kernel, he has a team who do that and he oversees it and makes the hard decisions.

There are others who will take his place and the work will continue.

If somehow the entire kernel team shut down, Google, Samsung or some other large corporation would take it over and continue development because at this point many, many, many servers, phones, smart devices, iot, and other appliances rely on the Linux kernel to function.

It simply cannot be left to die.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 142 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Today here at Microsoft we are celebrating the legacy of the late Linus Torvalds by releasing a new kernel, re-written entirely in Golang using Copilot. No GPL code was touched, merely re-written, and we will offer ISOs to the coding community for free! Stay tuned for more updates, as we will be exclusively developing on this kernel going forward! This is a great day for open source!"

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Our worst nightmare come true 😱

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Google, Samsung or some other large corporation would take it over

Perkele!

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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too big to fail is for once not for a big corporation or bank

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 117 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A number of candidates will create their own forks and there will be a long Game of Thrones style war between different factions. After couple of weeks each distro will choose the fork they will make the default one and people will split into warring factions. After that we will enter a nuclear winter style period lasting couple of years during which 90% of post on Lemmy will be just shitposting the rival forks. After a decade or two of backstabbing, dirty politics and other drama new dictator will be selected and all will be back to normal.

[–] emr@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

So like systemd but ten times more dramatic.

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[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 115 points 1 year ago (3 children)

His firstborn son will take over as Linus II, as is tradition.

[–] Wes_Dev@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The far future: A man sits at a table, staring at a floating hologram display. He watches as an indecipherable block of alphanumeric characters wiggles and splits into two segments. He nods slowly.

He takes a breath and closes his eyes, broadcasting a message to everyone on duty that day.

"Merge the request. Tell Linus#3418 that Wayland is now the default display manager."

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[–] vhalragnarok@linux.community 101 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There will not be a Linus 2, but rather there will be a peaceful transfer of "power".

Linus is not the Benevolent Dictator For Life of the Linux Kernel.

Linus has already stepped away from developing the Kernel. He did this after an incident to work on his professionalism & mannerisms towards people. Kernel development did not stop. Linus does not approve and merge every patch into the Kernel.

Rather it is more likely that the Lead Maintainer/Developer changes to Greg Kroah-Hartmon, and the project does not skip a beat.

Rest assured with something as important as the Linux Kernel: development will keep going.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rest assured with something as important as the Linux Kernel: development will keep going.

Morgan freeman voice: but he was not rested or assured.

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[–] chunkyhairball@lemmy.ml 90 points 1 year ago (5 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor is a thing that any GOOD project or IT department considers. How many of your staff can you afford to lose if they all happen to be travelling in the same bus, on their way to eat at the same place for lunch when an asteroid inevitably punches through said bus and/or diner.

'Hit by an asteroid' is a little unrealistic. Sentenced to prison for 15 to Life has happened in the Open Source community at least once before. The project I linked to had a Bus Factor of about one. It's now 'old code using outdated APIs' and is considered obsolete.

I've personally seen legal and criminal issues for a single individual cripple IT departments before, meaning their bus factor was also way too low. I've been on trips that have been rudely interrupted by screaming executives when I came down out of the mountains into cell range because I was the only bus factor left on certain systems. Natural disaster, such as hurricanes, wildfires, and floods are very serious existential threats to even the largest of organizations.

Since Linux seems to be a good project, I can't imagine that the discussion hasn't been had, in public or in private. Millions of individuals and dozens upon dozens of big corporations depend on Linux, Open source and otherwise. If the bus comes for core maintainers or project leaders we have at least SOME backup.

[–] kuadhual@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need to consider truck-kun factor, where the developer get isekai-ed.

[–] chunkyhairball@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"I'll Become the Strongest Adventurer in the Other World with My Maximum Level Open Source Operating System Development Skills."

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[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Known for: ReiserFS, murder" kinda makes it sound like the dude invented both.

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[–] wfh@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been on trips that have been rudely interrupted by screaming executives when I came down out of the mountains into cell range because I was the only bus factor left on certain systems.

Wow, incredible management skills, genius move to treat your one critical employee like a piece of shit.

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[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

sudo mount --bind /linus2 /linus

[–] Trd@lemmy.wtf 55 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Think we all can agree that the only sensible choise would to convert to Tempel OS...

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[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

From what I understand Greg Kroah-Hartman would take over

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A quick search shows he's actually two years older than Linus. Though I'm sure there's plenty of young blood in the community by now.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At which point it becomes Gregus.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For a moment I thought this post was about the LTT host. And was like they could replace him with any of his doppelgangers in the group and no one will notice.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That is what this post is about, IDK who this Torvalds guy is.

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[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then the propheciced hurdnus will rise and awaken a new era of foss

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[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The role of Linus being a stubborn decision maker will be handed over to a competent close one to Linus. He is not letting any of the "sociopolitical" experts take over the tech role that Linux plays critical to servers, security users, militaries, governments and activists.

[–] IAm_A_Complete_Idiot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linus has stepped away from kernel development before, and probably will again. Life continues on.

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By then GNU/Hurd will be ready lmao

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus is getting old and its time to pick his replacement.

And its you! Congratulations! I hope your ready

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[–] RagingToad@feddit.nl 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone is making jokes but the thought has occurred to me: Yes, we have an organisation in place that is ready to replace him. But, from what I understand, he IS the benevolent dictator, and he has used his power a few times to stop some changes that otherwise would be in the kernel right now. And I think that's a good thing.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When he dies, I expect his family will be sad for a while and bury him.

If he retires, his family will be pretty happy for him.

Other people will keep doing Linux stuff.

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[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I’m training a code and language model to write Linux kernel code and provide snarky comments, of course all based on Linus’s extensive commit history.

Our AI Überherr will be pleased.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 22 points 1 year ago

The git based AI he was secretly programming will take over and anyone who can't use git submodules without looking up the commands will die.

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