Socialism

5182 readers

27 users here now

Rules TBD.

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

dessalines@lemmy.ml

You don't get paid for 8 hours work, you get paid for working 8 hours (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

7 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 8 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

And that's why we work very little, and very slowly, for 8 hours.

[+] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

[deleted]

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

They aren't being paid for the efforts and profits produced by their labors for 8 full hours. They are being paid for being at the company for 8 hours.

Let's say they make 1,000 bits and bobs an hour, which the company sells for $20 each. That's $160,000 worth of product made over the course of their shift. Taking out taxes and operating costs and various overhead, they're still generating a lot of profit. They aren't being paid the worth of the value they create. Instead, they're making $7.25 an hour. It will take them almost 3 hours of work to buy one bit and bob, even though they create 1,000 an hour.

[+] quindraco@lemm.ee -7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Under capitalism, an hourly wage has no meaning; you are paid to accomplish a task. The faster you do so, the more you make per hour, and vice-versa.

Ubder communism, effort is rewarded, rather than results. Provided you worked for 8 hours, you are paid according to some arcane rule specifying your hourly wage. Results don't matter, only how much time you spent, which is incompetently used as a heuristic for effort.

In this meme, the evil communist overlord is paying someone the communist way, which unfairly gives the overlord an undue share of the profits. The worker was a fool and worked as hard as capitalism would suggest, and is surprised and disappointed to be paid the communist rate.

[–] Adeptus_Alexus@mastodon.social 9 points 1 year ago

@quindraco @Fixbeat
what red scare propaganda does to a MF 💀

[–] TacoNissan@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

Well, we're in a capitalist society in the US, and I can guarantee you, my boss doesn't pay me more when I work harder.

[–] burgersc12@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are you saying? Communism is when you get paid by the hour?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

I'm just there for like 6 hours... And I work a few hours at most.