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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

That’s language from the Treaty of Tripoli that was signed by John Adams, our second president. The Founding Fathers were grounded in Enlightenment philosophy. Whatever their personal faith was, they recognized that faith should not dominate politics. That is a threat to democracy and honest compromise in policy.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

they understood the only way to religious freedom would be agnostic democracy

[–] mnoram@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did it not go well? The article just details how people are defending his record and beliefs but shows no repercussions nor is it "not going well" for his defenders. He is second in line for the presidency with insane beliefs and theocratic tendencies. Sure seems to be going just fine for him, unfortunately for us.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe it's "not going well," because the majority of the public aren't buying their shit? Seems to kind of ring hollow when they have the power to both bring bills to the floor and vote on them.

[–] ericisshort@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

If you have to guess what the title means after reading the article, it’s a pretty bad title.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love for that to be true, but where’s the evidence? I skimmed the article but didn’t see any mention of public disapproval.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, I wasn't talking about the article. It's an opinion piece, so I feel justified sharing mine.

[–] Motavader@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“It’s a central premise of the Bible that God invented civil government,” Johnson told Olohan, who added that, “like many Americans of faith, Johnson sees government as a ‘design of God’ and ‘a gift to mankind in a fallen society.’

These people are literally insane.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God's explicit stance on government is "obey your government, pay your taxes". At no point does the Bible establish a government.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Your first mistake was thinking they've ever read the thing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And the Republican Party can’t even follow those two rules!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like King James's stance

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Tru but they ain't ready to talk about that

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It would still be concerning if these nut jobs actually followed all the Bible’s “teachings” like they espouse to but instead they believe that they get to decide what parts of the Bible should be taken literally, what parts need “modern” interpretation and what parts are ignored or hidden.

This makes them even more dangerous because it gives them the power to decide who is abiding by their god’s law and who is in violation of it.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which literally describes every organized religion

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Agreed but I think we can all agree that while cults are troubling and shouldn’t exist, death cults are even more so. The type of “Christianity” he subscribes to is very much a death cult.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

In fairness, they have to. There's a fun challenge out there that says open the Bible to a random page and do whatever it says. The last person to go to jail wins.

The Bible doesn't teach morality. It reveals the morality the believer has chosen.

[–] inspired@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This man looks like he's always about to kiss you full on the mouth but you know what he really wants to do is make a jacket out of your skin. 0 stars.

[–] inspired@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He won't seek consent for either and he's already drafting a bill that that look you're making... yeah, that look... is implied consent.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Did you just reply to yourself?

[–] inspired@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. (See what I did there?)

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Off topic, but there's something really really wrong with this guy. I don't like the continuous half smirk on his face. I don't like absolutely anything about him and find him creepy.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s the uncanny valley reflex.

At some period in Homo Sapiens evolution we developed an instinct for … things that weren’t quite right. They looked like people they talked like people. They were not people. They were dangerous, they were non human. We faced evolutionary pressure to recognise them. That means if you could not recognise these … things you would be removed from the gene pool.

That is why you find him creepy.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am trying to think of an example of something dangerous that talks like a human, almost looks like a human, but isn't human... A politician?

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago

He’s such a smarmy, sinister looking creep.