this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] rms1990@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PortableHotpocket@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think you don't have to get a job under communism? My man, if you don't want to work, capitalism is the much better system to bet on. Your labor can be overvalued under capitalism, letting you retire early. Under communism your value is equalized throughout the system regardless of your job. You work until you can't work. If you can work and you choose not to, the government stops giving you food and water, and reappropriates your house.

What you're thinking of is a Star Trek post-scarcity utopia. There's a reason it only exists in fiction.

Nothing us stopping you from putting together a commune right now. You could go and form a communist society with some of your friends. Let me know how it goes when you all want to sit on your ass doing nothing and the food doesn't just magically appear in front of you.

[–] rms1990@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao captilisim is cancer

[–] PortableHotpocket@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, sounds good. But then I don't want to see you begging for food, shelter, healthcare, transportation, cell phones, internet, or anything else provided by people who work. If you don't want to engage in this system of commerce, by all means, you do you. But if you aren't trading your labor to buy goods from other people who are laboring, you don't just get to have all your needs met for free.

Go live off the land, build your own shelter, grow/hunt your own food, and treat your own wounds. I wish you luck. I'd rather keep working and paying for a much better range of goods than you could ever scavenge or build on your own.

[–] hairinmybellybutt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I live in an EU country, I don't work and I receive welfare, which pays for food and rent.

Life is good.

You need to realize that it's machines and cheap energy who feed people, it's not labor. Machines do 95% of the work, because they are just much more efficient, so it's not really needed to make everyone work, and that's why there are so much working in fast food, sales, hotlines, taxi drivers, etc.

So go ahead, go work, but understand that work is no obligatory, we live in civilization, which means there is no reason people should starve and die because they don't work: there is enough food and shelter for everyone. I guess your taxes are somehow paying for my lifestyle.

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