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Negative. Zuckerberg is an actual human, not a quasi sentient conglomerate composed of experimental AI platforms developed by the US Air Force to explore alien worlds via the Stargate program.

The only thing they can collect (as long as you aren’t on their services) are the things that are available for the entire world to see. So your comments, usernames etc. are already visible and they won’t get any of your personal data as that’s not known except to your instances admins.

They will collect or probably are already collecting. Even if everyone defederate from Threads, they can and will open a secret instance and get all the data without anyone knowing it

This article sums up what has happened a few times already: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

This isn’t any different.

It surely won't take long. I'm expecting a speedrun.

Arbitrarily blocking an actor at the protocol level is directly contrary to the entire point of decentralized protocols in the first place.

I know, Meta bad, but the fact of the matter is that they probably won't be defederated by everyone, actually, because the idea of being able interact with your real friends and family and other people you know is going to be enticing.

They should put a hard-coded Meta blocker into activityhub

That will never happen

Hey man don't overthink it. You need a meta product for work or for a project, just use it professionally. You need to think about your own success and go where your audience is.

Now on your personal time if you don't want the toxicity of those places come to the fediverse and let's have a nice chat.

I think the goal of the fediverse is not to eat the world but on the contrary to give us alternatives so we can compartmentalize our internet life.

Same. If kbin joins in, I'm gone. I haven't been here long enough to give a fuck, but I do love it. I want kbin and Lemmy to make the right decision, but won't think twice about leaving the second I see things taking an enshittified turn. Fuck off, Meta - nobody wants you here.

I felt the same way but then I read this and changed my mind about it https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/

Thinking about it I'm in an European country where Whatsapp is the default messenger app, if it had interoperability I could be on another FOSS app and be tracked by Meta just when I talk to people who are on Whatsapp and be free when talking to people not on Whatsapp, this could be great to make people switch "clients", which is damn hard now because "everyone is on Whatsapp". Interoperability is the shit and we should embrace it!

Nothing good will come from meta, ever. They will alway look for a way to corrupt any social media to their favor in order try to dominate the Web. At this point of the internet history anyone giving a speck of trust to them is dream walking into a disaster waiting to happen.

If meta pushes this it will be to brand themselves with decentralized social media. The average person will associate the concept with meta and assume it was a meta invention. This may be a long play by meta to get in front of things like mastodon/lemmy/kbin/etc and become an established player in the space to the laymen before the actual established players can do so

It’s a gross misuse of their obscene power bordering on monopoly and hardly a good thing. Even if the above isn’t true they will 100% use it to harvest as much data as humanly possible without consent and tons more if you’re stupid enough to give them consent. They will tune algorithms to feed people rage bait and stupid bullshit to drive engagement at all costs. And they’ll load it with intrusive targeted advertising

Fuck meta

I agree, but I don't think Facebook is going to openly promote the ability to choose instances or explain federated software. I'm pretty sure everything that makes the fediverse cool is going to be hidden from users.

They won't be getting familiar with the fediverse though. They'll be getting familiar with Meta/Threads, as happened with Google Talk and XMPP.

The problem is you don’t want the kind of people Meta will bring here to be here. Also the fact that they’ll take all your info and sell it to every company and government on Earth.

Same thing people thought of when Google made an XMPP based client.

Defederation isn’t about punishing them. It’s about keeping their garbage off this platform, and keeping it separate.

They will collect data of third party users/services as well -_-