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Will people here use/try Meta's #threads when available? Would love to know the reasons or if it would be just for fun/curiosity.

The amount of data collected is insane imo.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 266 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely not. I didn't come to the Fediverse to be under social media companies again.

[–] edu4rdshl@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost same take here - but I also understand that there may be some people which would use/try it for whatever reasons.

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[–] ehrenschwan@feddit.de 190 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The amount of data collected is so insane that it won't come out in the EU for now. And I like it that way.

[–] edu4rdshl@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Now these are news for me, thanks for the info.

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[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 128 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stay the fuck away from anything Meta/Facebook, so absolutely not.

[–] pi3r8@vlemmy.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish more people would adopt this approach.

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everything I don't like about twitter combined with everything I don't like about Facebook? hard pass.

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[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 84 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Thanks to @m0bi13 who posted this breakdown for context :

Data collected by #threads:

  • Health & Fitness
    
    
  • Financial info
    
    
  • Contact info
    
    
  • User content
    
    
  • Browsing History
    
    
  • Usage Data
    
    
  • Diagnostics
    
    
  • Purchases
    
    
  • Location
    
    
  • Contacts
    
    
  • Search history
    
    
  • Identifiers
    
    
  • Sensitive Info
    
    
  • Other Data
    
    

Oh fuck no. The very first line is basically a HIPAA violation. It gets worse from there. We require less disclosure from Supreme Court Justices and Presidential nominees.

This is a trainwreck waiting to happen - even if Facebook itself doesn't abuse this level of power, you know that bad actors within the organization will. And once the information is collected, you know that tyrannical governments all over the world will be falling over themselves to get access to the data. This is a stalker's wetdream, an Orwellian orgasm of truly grotesque proportions.

Keep the Fediverse from Zucking. Just say no to Threads.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It’s not a HIPPA violation. That law doesn’t apply to companies like Meta beacause they do not fit the definition of an entity that the law was written towards. This is just people freely giving away their personal health information and nothing more. From your own link:

The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other individually identifiable health information (collectively defined as “protected health information”) and applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses, and those health care providers that conduct certain health care transactions electronically.

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[–] QueenAlucia@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nope. This company is on my blacklist and I won’t try anything they make.

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[–] ViridianNott@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

not a fucking chance

[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

No webpage + only phone app interaction = NO, THANK YOU.

[–] cufta22@programming.dev 39 points 1 year ago

My brother in Christ, you're asking people on Lemmy if they're going to try meta spyware

[–] aquarisces@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, fuck that and fuck them

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

They should call the instance "metastasis" cuz that company is fucking cancer.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Let's see...

  • I despise Facebook/Meta.
  • I don't want to help Mark Zuckerberg get more money.
  • I was never fond of Twitter, either - an interesting concept, poorly executed.
  • If I did want a Twitter-ish post feed, there's Mastodon.

So no, I won't be trying out the Zuck's attempt to eat the Muskrat's lunch. Sounds like a gross spectacle no one asked for.

[–] RomanRoy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People on Twitter are already trying it because Twitter has been shit.

Someone in my circle created their account and already deleted it. Their explanation was a FAQ screenshot for Threads saying that it doesn't matter who you follow or who follows you, the algorithm will show or hide things from you based on what they think you will enjoy and there's no way around it and you also can't sort by new.

I mean, are companies really paying attention to user needs? Lol

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[–] iNeedScissors67@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

Not a chance.

[–] M4775@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No! - I'm not a dumbfuck. Mark Zuckerberg once said people who trust him with their personal information are dumbfucks. I have never had an account on any of his platforms, and never will. If something I'm using integrated with his products I'd just stop using it. Just no!

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[–] GenBlob@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago
[–] xaon_rider92@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Just seeing the list of privacy data collected is enough to make me baulk. I barely ever use Facebook or Twitter as is, I'm not touching that shit with a 10ft pole.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

"Did you mean: Give away your personal info?"

[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I would have more privacy waking naked in the street

[–] AlgonquinHawk@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Carrot said it best…

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[–] Doesnotexist@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't try meta's anything.

I wouldn't try a meta fire extinguisher if I was on fire.

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[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

absolutely fucking not.

I think we need to cut them the fuck off here. It's obvious Meta sees the Fediverse and Mastedon as a competing threat to its communication ecosystem and wants to EEE ths shit out of ActivityPub

[–] Ryan213@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago
[–] onceuponaban@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

No, and I will go one step further by blocking the Threads domain assuming kbin itself doesn't choose to defederate from it.

[–] Selgauth@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago
[–] neblem@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

No.

  • As you pointed out way too many data permissions
  • While I'm not in the "everything for-profit companies does is inherently evil" camp, Meta has done some sketchy stuff.
  • It's mostly microblogging from what I can tell, and that's best in smaller instances or instances heavily moderated / filtered to feel that way which Threads likely won't be
  • It's name, even though it won't really be mixed threads like the name implies, will mess up momentum for the Threadiverse to mean AP actual threaded apps, and terms are hard.
  • I'm sure their TOS, privacy policies, or moderation policies aren't going to be any better than other Meta apps.

That being said, I do like:

  • They are planning to federate via AP unlike Bluesky
  • Meta is trying new things other than VR.
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[–] livus@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago
[–] Maruki_Hurakami@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Definitely not.

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

lol no. It's not even legal in the EU.

[–] LollyActionGinger@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Hard pass. I’m shit tired of being advertised to and packaged as a product at the same time

[–] win95@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago

We need to let meta die slowly, so no.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Privacy-wise, I already use Facebook, WhatsApp, Messenger and Instagram, and I'm pretty sure that Mark Zuckerberg knows everything that he'd ever want to know about me. I largely believe in the conspiracy theory that Meta actively listens in on users in some way to serve them ads and targeted content, even if the evidence is circumstantial at best.

Despite this, would I still use Threads? Probably not.

Microblogging isn't my thing. 140 characters is nowhere near enough space to articulate your thoughts and it feels like the site was originally designed around SMS text message limitations more than anything. I also don't like how the only way you can get any genuine interaction on places like Twitter or even Mastodon is to be a celebrity.

I do agree that we should collectively defederate Threads much in the same way that everybody on the fediverse collectively blacklisted Gab, not necessarily as a fuck-you to Zuckerberg, but because a flood of Instagram normies would completely cripple other instances with traffic.

[–] jason@lemmy.weiser.social 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tangentially-related, I'm actually really excited to use Threads's federation with Mastodon to bring interested friends and family over to Mastodon. If you get all the same benefits (connection, more people) with none of the ads or privacy downsides, then it seems like a no-brainer to join Mastodon over Threads.

But to answer the question, no. I run my own Mastodon (and Lemmy) server. I'm kind of all-in on the fediverse.

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[–] ndguardian@lemmy.studio 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. No need to as Mastodon and Lemmy exist, and I have no desire to give Meta data.

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[–] WorstCase@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's just a cover for another data-collecting-machine made by the big players. **No thanks! **

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The last thing I need in my life is to have my privacy debased by another data collection app disguising itself as social media, and even less to participate in another echo chamber shitshow like Facebook or Twitter. Hard pass…

[–] whynotnat@monyet.cc 16 points 1 year ago
[–] Neirin_D 16 points 1 year ago

Nope. If I wanted something similar to twitter, I would use Mastodon, not Meta's privacy hell.

[–] Rannoch@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I can't see any reason for me to ever try it. I've got plenty of social media to deal with already, and this doesn't seem to be offering anything new or interesting for me. Plus the creepy permissions even keep me away from joining temporarily out of any curiosity I might have.

[–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm torn between "Fuck no!" and "What? Seriously?"

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[–] Eladarling@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely the fuck not. There's no room at the Inn for whores like me on Meta apps ¯\(ツ)

I was permanently banned from Instagram a few months ago because I'm a pornstar. A lot of industry folks were banned around the same time. In retrospect, I wonder if they were trying to clean up the app ahead of the launch of Threads.

I had experienced temporary bans before over the years, we all had. But losing my account and then having my new account banned again within two days, all without posting anything even approaching NSFW was fucking awful. It really hurt a lot of us financially.

So fuck no, I'm not going to spend my time creating content and IP, posting photos, and engaging with my fans on their new platform. I doubt I could join it anyway.

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[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

If they're going to make money off my data, then they can pay me to use Threads.

[–] Mystech@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That's like getting picked up from Catholic Boys Choir by a white van with "Free Candy" spray painted on the side.

[–] CaptObvious@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Nope. I have a barely-used Instagram account from before the sale to Facebook. I keep it in hopes that, someday, a regulator will force them to sell IG or spin it off. I have zero interest in having anything else to do with Facebook or any of its subsidiaries.

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