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I always thought it was a pretty smart idea on Reddit's side to have the posts and comments be automatically upvoted by their author, saving them the tough choice between playing fair or boosting their initial reach a little; and if you had particularly low self-esteem, this enabled you to reduce your own points by not one, but two, by self-downvoting.
Here, both upvotes and downvotes (or rather, favourites and reduces) start at 0, and you have the option to upvote your post manually (which I've already seen some people do) - which, while currently does not increase your reputation, does give you that small initial boost by making it look like people are starting to engage with your post.

What do you think - should the posts and comments be automatically upvoted by the author? If not, are you fine with people upvoting themselves, or do you feel it's unfair towards the ones that don't do it?

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[–] sdcSpade@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I sit on my hand and upvote my comments/posts with a numb hand so it doesn't feel like I'm the one doing it.

[–] s804@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always upvote myself. For me it is that if I can't support (and love) myself first, how others can do that after too? So since I enjoy what I post I always upvote and boost them. Hell yeah I don't care if people don't approve, I believe in myself and don't need to be approved from others. If the feature exists it should be used, otherwise just remove it or make it automatic hahaha

[–] missmystique@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Self upvotes feel fine yet self boosts feel excessive to me, but I don't have an actual reason for thinking that.

[–] s804@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they should make it automatic for people, makes a lot more sense!

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can somebody explain boosts to me?

[–] BBKuma@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Boosts are basically like "retweets" where if someone you follow boost a thread or post, you would see it in your subscribed feed.

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There's two up voting systems at play right now. Kbin is in the process of switching boosts to upvotes but the Reddit explosion happened part way through. I'm not sure if boosts will stay or turn into something different.

[–] missingno@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Upvoting myself feels weird, but it feels like something I might have to do to help my posts gain traction, especially if everyone else is gonna do it. Reddit had it right, should just be the default.

[–] Wage_Slave@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

"As reddit user begin to learn and appreciate their new habitats, we see some have already found usage of existing systems to pat themselves on the back. While not unexpected, how quickly, and efficiently they have done so is really remarkable. This digital nature relocation of the Reddit population truly has been fascinating"

Updoots self nothing to see here, guys.

[–] cowvin@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think people should be able to vote on their own posts. It's meaningless. It doesn't matter if everyone starts from 0 or +1 or whatever.

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked reddit's approach. Self upvoting your posts if they aren't upvoted feels ridiculous. (ok, I have upvoted 1-2 of mine when trying to figure out how it works, but it still feels ridiculous)

So I would prefer if they are already pre-upvoted, or you should not be allowed to vote your posts/comments

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to downvote myself if my comment was shown to be egregiously wrong as some sort of masochistic exercise.

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

you can go to the next level and next time try blocking yourself!

[–] Eavolution@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it matters if users upvote their own stuff or not, however I don't think users should be given the choice. It should either be users always upvote their own stuff, or users can't upvote their own stuff.

[–] Anon2971@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I've made a poll so we can decide. We could then add the most popular suggestion to the Codeberg repo. I'm personally leaning towards no self upvoting.

Update: Now we've had hella votes I've added a feature request to the repo.

[–] IBNobody@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I agree. As a lazy user, I do not want to have to worry about upvoting/boosting my own content.

[–] jcrm@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Reddit's vote system was pretty near perfect, especially in the early days. You should upvote your own posts by default. I also prefer having a combined "score" rather than different scores for upvotes and downvotes.

Oh, and can we get a "sort by top" for comments? I miss that from Reddit.

[–] IncognitoErgoSum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I also prefer having a combined "score" rather than different scores for upvotes and downvotes.

I don't. A post that's been voted 100 times and down 95 times is completely different from a post that's been upvoted 5 times and not downvoted at all. That's good information to have, both as a poster and a reader.

Also, enough people use downvotes as an "I disagree" button that I don't think they ought to be counted (or should be counted minimally) when determining what content rises to the top, or we'll end up with another echo chamber.

[–] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I generally believe in myself, so I'd upvote me, if I weren't so lazy. Reddit helped me with it.

[–] BigVault@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not fussed either way, if someone wants the little boost from the initial +1 they see from their own upvote, more power to them.
I'm happy starting at zero and seeing where the community takes me.

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen Redditors that took the time to manually unvote themselves. They like playing hard mode I guess

[–] Timwi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Unless they told you and you believe them, you can’t really know if it’s them who unvoted themselves, since Reddit only shows the total.