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A helpful resource I've been referencing for a while now. Thought this community might be able to put some of this knowledge to use when debating others on the merits of socialism (friendly debates of course ๐Ÿ˜‰)

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[โ€“] cavemeat@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is excellent, thank you. I especially like that it includes the "Fallacy fallacy" as some people tend to dismiss everything the moment their opponent makes a mistake.

[โ€“] Laconic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I don't really like the explanation for Tu Quoque. Tu Quoque is an appeal to hypocrisy. For instance you want me to believe in climate change, but you drive a car or Al Gore flies private jets.

Whether or not something is true doesn't require the person telling you about it to have a lifestyle that's perfectly aligned with that information. You can be a hypocrite and correct. I would prefer to be a correct hypocrite than an incorrect non-hypocrite. At least the hypocrite knows there's something that needs to be done.

I also prefer false choice or false dichotomy over black and white for that one, but that's just me being picky. Black and white is just as good a descriptor for it. I do really like the infographic. It's nice to have them all in one place.

[โ€“] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After more than a decade on Reddit, I find that understanding the Fallacy Fallacy is hugely important.

People on the Internet will jump onto any slight lapse in logic to ignore an argument they don't like. Even more commonly IMO, someone will apply a surface level understanding of some "fallacy" to dismiss you even if the fallacy doesn't actually apply when you look closer