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[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well they all use a different interface style. For example Lemmy is "Reddit like". Mastodon is "Twitter like". So just use whatever platform works best for you. You're on Lemmy right now so I would guess you're looking for a Reddit style. There's also kbin to serve the same, but they're having some problems federating right now. They may not offer the best user experience. kbin is newer and still in early development. Lemmy has a few years under its belt.

[–] Semenaisse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So is kbin part of lemmy? Or is it different like mastadon?

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So is kbin part of lemmy? Or is it different like mastadon?

Kbin is another Reddit like platform. All Fediverse platforms communicate using the ActivityPub protocol, but each platform has it's own development team. Right now ActivityPub is not seamless between platforms, for example Lemmy is not talking to Mastodon very well right now. The goal is for seamless communications between platforms, but that's not the case yet. It's just growing pains that should get worked out over time.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May be a controversial opinion but I don't think lemmy instances should talk to mastodon, I feel like twitter and reddit are two entirely separate platforms for entirely separate purposes and if you mix them together you kinda destroy that individualisation

Yeah, I'm not interested at all in microblogging.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you saying you can't read Kbin through Lemmy but the goal is to be able to?

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

We were about to read Kbin posts from Lemmy.ml just a week ago but I think the server updates might have caused federation issues cause I no longer see them on my feed.

But yes, you should be able to subscribe to Kbin "magazines" (their version of communities/subreddits) and see their posts from Lemmy and theoretically vice versa.

[–] Ivyymmy@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

People at Kbin can also see our upvotes and downvotes (perfect for toxic stalkers...).

[–] jk47@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would this work? If I'm on Lemmy I would be able to read Mastodon posts? Would they appear like Lemmy comments or what?

[–] clgoh@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Right now, on Mastodon we can read Lemmy's posts.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similar UX but different project, just like how you can get stuff from Lemmy in your Mastodon feed.

[–] Semenaisse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So can we get stuff from mastodon in our feed? Also, I see Wordpress in there too, which isn’t a social network.

[–] Quills@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as i know you can't see normal mastodon posts on lemmy, Kbin has that capacity but not lemmy

[–] jhn@xffxe4.lol 3 points 1 year ago

Normal mastodon posts you can’t, but if they post a specific way then it’ll show up. Theres one in my comment history.

[–] Quills@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Different, just providing a more or less a similar experience making it more compatible to lemmy by nature, technical difficulties still exist tho, like it was said before, obviously, but that's normal, things are still in development

[–] krackalot@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

Kbin also has a user karma system, which I want nothing to do with. I feel it's a system that was abused on reddit and didn't make anything better.

[–] Riptide502@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reminds me of all the linux distros.

I imagine the surge in the fediverse has the linux community frothing at the mouth. Moving away from privatized software to open source, a step closer to ushering in the mythical year of the linux desktop.

FOSS becoming mainstream would be so good for humanity's future...I think we're a long way off from that being more than a dream though.

I'll just keep doing my part by trying to convince my friends to go Linux though lol.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux has actually become measurably more popular over the past few years, recently cracking the 3% mark (actually 7% including Chrome OS). I know, doesn't sound like much, but keep in mind even sub-1% browser projects like Brave or Vivaldi are not only alive, but also rather well known and doing great... And Mozilla is co-defining internet standards with Firefox at 9%.

I think we can thank not only Chrome OS (which actually is a Linux desktop distro, no matter how you look at it), the Steam Deck, and finally Microsoft and Win11 for that trend lol

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks Raspberry Pi too

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe, but the scale is different. We're talking about a client-server application versus a whole operating system. The Fediverse has created new open source communities, but I think it's had minimal impact on existing ones. In other words wide scale adoption of the Fediverse may not significantly increase the popularity of Linux over any other OS. Though many instance admins are using a VPS so it could be a boon for server farms running on open source software.

[–] EliasChao@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

If the whole fediverse thing gets to the mainstream, more people can start looking at ways to be less corporate-dependent in their digital lives, and maaaybe start considering Linux as their main OS.

I know it’s a bit of a stretch, but hey! people can dream I guess.

[–] ndguardian@lemmy.studio 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, this would be the first I’ve heard of Wordpress leveraging ActivityPub.

[–] Quills@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems to have some addons or something like that that allow it to communicate with activitypub

[–] ndguardian@lemmy.studio 2 points 1 year ago

Neat! Not that I use WordPress so it doesn’t matter to me, but interesting all the same.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't know nextcloud used activitypub, how does it federate? Had assumed it was just a self hosted alternative to Dropbox/OneDrive/whatever

[–] anytimesoon 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's only to between nextcloud instance

[–] kamasupra@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it make sense to merge all of them into one β€œsuper app”?

[–] LobsterDog@frig.social 2 points 1 year ago

It does not.

[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 1 points 1 year ago

admins could roll deployments that are tightly integrated if they wanted now, just takes time to setup. I think most servers are dealing with the basics right now.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish nomadic identities were more of a thing, then I might actually use other ActivityPub services.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

This might be a rare case where blockchain is the correct solution.

[–] ronondex@mlem.a-smol-cat.fr 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is the compatibility. You can follow Lemmy from Mastondon, but not vis-versa.

Lemmy is pretty dismissive of the rest of the fediverse.

[–] possum@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't really agree, Lemmy made sure that posts+comments show up in Mastodon and that Mastodon users can post+comment to Lemmy.

More compatibility would be great though.

[–] NENathaniel@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a rundown on what they're all like? Only familiar with Lemmy and Mastodon

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Check out https://fediverse.party/en/miscellaneous/ and filter by ActivityPub to see the many apps that use a similar protocol to Lemmy along with quick descriptions. Not all apps there will be well populated, but it will give you an overview of what some of the fedi apps do.

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