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Some time ago I gave up using sonarr & radarr to watch (popular) tv shows and movies because the search just stopped giving decent results. Now I heard that rarbg has also quit.

So I am wondering, is this still a thing?

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[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Automation apps have gotten more popular over the years so yes, they are still a thing.

Sonarr/Radarr are the most popular ones but there are others too. Most work with torrents and usenet but you'd need to check the individual projects to be sure.

Book Automation Link Description
LazyLibrarian https://gitlab.com/LazyLibrarian/LazyLibrarian Audiobooks / Books / Magazines
Mylar3 https://github.com/mylar3/mylar3 Comic Books
Readarr https://readarr.com Audiobooks / Books
Movies/TV Automation Link Description
DuckieTV https://schizoduckie.github.io/DuckieTV TV
Medusa https://pymedusa.com TV
Nefarious https://lardbit.github.io/nefarious Movies/TV app (using Jackett/Transmission)
Radarr https://radarr.video Movies
SickChill https://sickchill.github.io TV
SickGear https://github.com/SickGear/SickGear TV
Sonarr https://sonarr.tv TV
Watcher https://github.com/barbequesauce/Watcher3 Movies
Music Automation Link Description
Headphones https://github.com/rembo10/headphones Music
Lidarr https://lidarr.audio Music
General Automation Link Description
Autobrr https://autobrr.com Monitor IRC announce channels and RSS feeds
FlexGet https://flexget.com Monitor RSS feeds
RSSToolBot http://rsstoolbot.infymus.com Monitor and aggregate RSS feeds
[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

fucking lemmy man, wrote out awhole ass answer to this and got deleted. god fucking dammit.

welp. here goes again.

headphones is a monthly subscription and not that great, not worth it at all.

lidarr is garbage and the folks around it are assholes. you iether love it and froth at the mouth when someone says they're having trouble with it, or you hate it. It also is a fucking resource hog like I've never seen. MAJOR memory leaks

I use Roon and Qobuz, and Nicotine+ for stuff that isn't on Qobuz. qobuz-dl is really robust and awesome and can do anything you want lidarr to do: just maintain a list of artists in a document, and qobuz-dl will automatically download anything new as it keeps track of what's already been downloaded before.

The Roon folks are just as bad as the Lidarr folks. This shit costs $7-800 for a lifetime license and it does't even include ANY music streaming. It's just a music server and manager. And they don't actually have tech support. Literally if you go to their support page, they direct you to a fucking forum full of morons high on the koolaid (bc honestly you have to be if you invested $700 on a shitty music player), tell you to get lost if you don't like a program with bugs up the ass.

I would love to make an open source offering that does what roon does but also allows you to automatically download stuff using qobuz-dl, tidal-dl, bandcamp-dl, etc.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Headphones only costs money if you want to use their indexer. Ive never paid but does seem like a reasonable way to fund your project.

Why are the lidarr devs assholes? Also I have never experienced any memory leaks to my knowledge and the only time it slows down is if I'm trying to match my entire library

https://github.com/RandomNinjaAtk/docker-lidarr-extended comes with a bunch ofadditionaldownload scripts like tidall-dl

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[–] Quark95@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have you considered using Plex as your music server? I’ve had a great experience with it.

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[–] ALERT@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I maintain my library with Lidarr in a manual manner for downloads and imports. I didn't experience memory leaks.

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[–] BeardedGingerWonder@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Logitech Media Server (LMS)/slimserver may tick a lot of your Roon requirements.

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[–] krimson@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your extensive post 👍🏼

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Nice list, appreciated

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.fmhy.ml 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sonarr and Radarr ARE THE THING, without them I hardly would use Torrents nowadays lol.

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago

The are better than ever, they completely changed my server.

[–] Glassboxes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Man, I stopped using torrents 90 percent of the time. Usenet all day.

[–] koinu@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It very much IS still a thing!

Depending on your preferences, there's even been a pretty big update to Sonarr which allows custom formats, thus bringing out some pretty powerful abilities!

For example, I have it set up EXACTLY how I want for anime. X265 PREFERRED, Dual Audio PREFERRED, a whole smack of uploaders were essentially blocked from ever being downloaded, and there's a few users who trump all else and will always be downloaded first if they are available. So good.

There's a few guides if you want to give it a try! :)

[–] UnstoppableMango@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you have any guides for the custom anime formats? I haven't updated yet and would love to get more dual audio releases. My current setup is pretty hit or miss as to whether I ever get a dub of a show.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://trash-guides.info/Radarr/Radarr-collection-of-custom-formats/ for radarr

https://trash-guides.info/Sonarr/sonarr-collection-of-custom-formats/ for sonarr

These are fantastic have really upped my quality. I was just randomly grabbing releases without knowing whether they had atmos or hdr 10 or dv etc. This is SUPER helpful as you can give a score and then when you manually search, it chooses the highest score.

For me the highest custom format score possible is Dolby Vision with hdr10 or hdr10+ fallback, truehd atmos, criterion collection. This was a custom one I made. YOu can also follow precisely their own prescriptions for how to use the custom formats if you like, which I may go back and do.

That said, some releases that say atmos in the title are not atmos and it pisses me off. The good thing is you can find which scene releasesd , check out a few more "atmos" titles from them and see if it's worth just blocking their releases entirely, which you can do with custom formats.

I think the next step for radarr/sonarr is to make those custom formats a LOT easier to manage on your own. LIke let you give a a priority list or video codecs, a priority list of audio codecs, a priority list for other things such as criterion collection, etcc.

[–] koinu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

gonna piggyback off of your comment, here is a trash guide specifically for anime in Sonarr!

This is what I used, and I added some custom rules too! There is an uploader who goes by "Judas", so I added a rule that gives a positive weight of 100 whenever it's his upload, so if it's between 2 exact copies of a torrent, but 1 is by Judas, then he gets priority. I also made 265 a positive score instead of negative. And I also made dual audio positive.

It works very well for me!

[–] koinu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

To piggyback on what /u/MonkCanatella said, here is a trash guide specifically for anime in Sonarr!

This is what I used, and I added some custom rules too! There is an uploader who goes by "Judas", so I added a rule that gives a positive weight of 100 whenever it's his upload, so if it's between 2 exact copies of a torrent, but 1 is by Judas, then he gets priority. I also made 265 a positive score instead of negative. And I also made dual audio positive.

It works very well for me!

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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The search results are as good as your trackers, in my experience.

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have a look at Jackett, it re-produces the search results for hundreds of torrent sites as Torznab feeds, what that means is that these can then be added to indexes for Sonarr and Radarr.

[–] ALERT@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Prowlarr instead of Jackett. It's simplier and more convenient.

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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

Or prowlarr for something different and a bit more powerful

[–] Stubborn9867@lemmy.jnks.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Very much so. I just switched to prowlarr from jacket to handle searches. I use pirate bay for all media 1337x, and eztv for television and find most everything that's not obscure. Have it all behind a VPN though obviously.

[–] firipu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I still use it. It still works well enough for me that it's mostly fire and forget.

[–] tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I use it. I got a Usenet acct and just use torrents as a backup.

[–] Acidpunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

yeah they work great here's how I have mine setup

Sabznbd Prowlarr Sonarr Radarr Docker container for Flaresolverr https://github.com/FlareSolverr/FlareSolverr

Now if you want to go further than that you can setup profiles https://trash-guides.info/ for quality.

But the truth is the problem isn't Sonarr or Radarr it's just that Torrents can be kind of garbage with automation, I would suggest you look into Usenet. It costs a bit of money to spend but a much more consistent experience.

[–] soniko_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Radarr/sonarr/jackett is the way

[–] Hizeh@hizeh.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can still self-host a local copy of (almost?) all the rarbg torrents for *arr apps to use as index, a lot of them still have seeds.

[–] xnx@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mgdigital RARBG selfhosted Torznab

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[–] XanXic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Searching for files is not what Sonarr and Radarr are really strong in. They do an excellent job of managing files and keep track of shows. And occasionally ask an indexer to find them.

Indexers are what actually search files. Jackett was the popular manager, Prowlarr is the new hotness and really simplifies the process a lot.

But bigger point being Sonarr, Radarr, and Prowlarr work together to find and manage files. They are only as good as what you set them up to do. Prowlarr can search 50+ torrent websites for a file at the same time if you set up all the integrations for those. It is better than any one website because it can search them all, even RarBG when it was up. It also works with NZBs and search them all at once. Then you set Sonarr and Radarr to the quality and type you want and they'll pick from the search results automatically.

[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

This actually isn’t true. You can configure sonarr and radarr to directly search indexers without using a wrapper. Most people use a wrapper so you only need to configure changes to your indexers from one place instead of updating sonarr,radarr,lidarr,readarr all individually

Still, at the end of the day a large part of what you get is what you have access too. Better indexers gets you more content

[–] Thurgo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the manual search interface and experience better on Prowlarr? I don't really need the automation part from Sonarr/Radarr but the mega search on Jackett is really useful for me.

[–] XanXic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's pretty nice. Prowlarr is a straight up upgrade over Jackett from my experience. It even auto manages the indexers on all your arr instances for you.

[–] Grandsinge@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

I've exclusively used Sonarr/Radarr/Readarr for TV/Movies/Books and audiobooks for the past several years. Combined with a few usenet indexers and a decent usenet provider these programs are fantastic (fully automated other than selecting the content and speeds often max my gig connection). It does take a bit of reading and tweaking to get it all setup but I can't recall the last time I couldn't find content.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The devs for these projects are kind of uppity tbh. Like I'm appreciative of their efforts, but I'd never contribute to the code base itself as they're very rude.

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[–] Hirosum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I use sonarr for a few weekly shows i watch and never had any big problems. I use torrents with jackett for my indexers. Downloading whole seasons works prefectly too assuming the show is popular enough to have seeders. Ive been recommended prowlarr over jackett but ive not had any reason to swap yet!

[–] Xepher@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Very much still a thing. Been using both with little issues for years.

[–] 21racecar12@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You need good trackers and tags to filter to good releases, otherwise the default quality profiles and tags will not do the heavy lifting.

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[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 4 points 1 year ago

With Prowlarr or Jackett you can use it with (almost) any other site, or you can use RSS feeds

[–] asjkk8@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I'm still using it. I binded 1337 and torrGalaxy and so far, not a single issue as far as results.

[–] asjkk8@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm still using it. I binded 1337 and torrGalaxy and so far, not a single issue as far as results.

[–] DiachronicShear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I only use Sonarr/Radarr, but I also use usenet not torrents, and I've never had an issue finding things with the indexer I use

[–] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It's great with Usen3t.

[–] legion@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started using real debrid once rarbg fell. Game changer

[–] ImDonaldDunn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Real Debrid combined with Sonarr/Radarr is an excellent combination with rdt-client as the torrent software. Most of the time the files are already hosted on RD, so you don’t have to wait for the torrent to download, and it sometimes has files for torrents that no longer have seeders

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