What is up with Newsome vetoing all this shit suddenly?
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
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Presumably getting ready to launch his own presidential bid, so he needs to court the center by appearing more moderate.
Or the opposing side trying to make him look bad. California still sets the standards for a lot of rules that we'd be better off with the rest of the country copying.
Yeah honestly it seems like a targeted media blitz more than anything. If you read the actual article, most of his vetos are done for very good reasons - but they're all being posted with reductive headlines
Teens having Kids cost more than condoms
Frankly, when I was in high school - cost was never the issue in whether a couple used condoms, and even in my relatively conservative area, there were local programs that would give out free condoms if you cared enough to look
Better sex education would go a much longer way imo - because even in California our sex Ed (this was like a decade ago, so maybe it's changed) was full of "abstinence only" garbage - thankfully the teachers were usually smart enough to go off book and give realistic advice/answers
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The CA legislature passed a buttload of bills right before adjourning, so he's working his way through them now. Plus, CA has a budget deficit, so stuff that costs money has to be more carefully considered - free condoms are a worthwhile thing, but then the question becomes what do you cut instead? It's not always an easy question.
How much do they actually expect these to cost? How about they cancel fireworks at the next sports event. That'd probably cover it
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How much would prohibiting caste discrimination or decriminalizing psilocybin increase the deficit?
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If you think fronting the cost of condoms for teenagers is expensive, wait till you see how much it costs the state to provide services for a single teen mother
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We had condoms in our school washrooms in the late 90s in Canada. Pads in the ladies room as well. At a broke ass public school that had out of date text books.
America really is a weird fucked up religiously warped place.
Yes and these vetos have nothing to do with cost and everything to do with Newsom positioning to be president.
He doesn't want to generate talking points for the right wingnut propaganda machine.
Vetos on progressive therapeutics, caste discrimination, etc.
Then there's kissing up to the big donor utilities to appoint a CPUC to hobble solar.
It really sucks because he could do good but nope.
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You know what's so much more expensive? Teenagers having babies. That shit is expensive for everyone. Having a child's life ruined and forced to raise a child into another ill prepared adult. Costs society lots of money.
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Just FYI: most family planning centers, like Planned Parenthood, hospitals and birthing clinics already give out free condoms to anyone who asks. That's where I was getting mine when I was a teenager.
They give you bags stuffed to the brim!!!! It looks like the picture lol. Nobody there wants unwanted pregnancies.
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Condoms are a hell of a lot cheaper than children
As much as I'm certain this is not the case I still can't help but be self amused with the mental image of an exasperated Gavin Newsom coming out of an extensive review of data on just how much Californian highschool students do be going at it, and immediately declaring "nope, can't afford to rubber all that."
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"We want progressives!"
"You have progressives at home."
The progressive at home:
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Judging from a number of posts here, does that guy have "Veto Week" or what?
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I mean I do agree with the fact that the bill doesn't provide funding for the condoms just that the schools need to provide it. That sounds pretty dumb to me.
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To be fair…. If there were free condoms at my school, they would just be used for water balloons and pranks
Because babies and STDs are free.
How many of those kids will end up in foster care? How many will put their parents onto welfare rolel? How many will we need to send to college?
It's hard to tell kids that condoms are cheaper than kids when the government won't do the same.
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