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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Earth is a grave, and we're getting flowers near the poles.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

flowers near the poles.

This is not the first time.

Antarctica has had a huge variety of life in the past during warm periods.

Earth is a grave

No, earth is doing what it has always done. Responding to change during an extinction event. Life has caused an extinction event in the past during the great oxygenation event. The only difference this time is that the life-form causing the extinction event (humans) are aware of what is happening.

I am not happy about any of this, it is a tragedy caused by humans.

But the earth will recover in time, geological time. Life on earth will continue. It just won't be the same species that were here before. Whether humans make it through all this is uncertain. The cyanobacteria that caused the oxygenation still exist but only in tiny numbers compared to when they also dominated the planet.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You’re severely downplaying (not even mentioning) the unprecedented by an order of magnitudes speed at which we’ve bought about the end of this epoch.

Nothing about this is natural or cyclical.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The planet has survived sudden and dramatic climate shifts before.

For example, the asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs caused years or decades of impact winter. The planet survived fine. The non-avian dinosaurs didn't, but the planet did.

That comment isn't saying that what's going on now is a normal cycle, but rather the natural response to a non-normal event.

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

a nice reminder that the planet is gonna be just fine, it's just running a fever to burn out the infection.

[–] Event_Horizon5@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Nobody was ever worried about the planet. We are worried about the ecosystems that we rely on to survive.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

*mass extinction event is currently happening with thousands of species disappearing *

Planet is gonna be fine pf

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Precisely, the planet don't give a fuck, it'll still be there. Everything living on it though..

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Well, not everything. Just most of the big ones and slow adaptable ones.

Humans probably arent gonna survive, but viruses might. I know of a certain Agent who's gonna be looking forward to that.

[–] Narrrz@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

extinction events are nothing new. species come and go, life endures.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw thank you i feel better now! I ll try to explain that to a polar bear in local zoo

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think T Rex was thrilled when that comet hit.

But the planet is bigger than T Rex. The planet was fine, it recovered. That's not a good consolation to the T Rex, but it is objectively true.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is hilarious and so immediately telling of our current situation. You know what else is objectively true? You are comparing a completely random event on cosmological scale, with human made global warming. Which we could solve, but aren't gonna. Because that makes economy go bad.

I am not discussing further, you are obviously hiding from a(ny) responsability

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not the person you originally responded to?

a nice reminder that the planet is gonna be just fine

Planet is gonna be fine pf

I'm just echoing George Carlin's bit: "the planet is fine; the people are fucked". There's almost nothing that people can do that could possibly be worse than the Permian extinction or the Chicxulub impact. Regardless of what people do, the planet will be fine. The planet has survived far worse and come out just fine.

Whatever we do to combat climate change, it isn't for the planet. It's for the people.

Just as if there were a Cretaceous space program, redirecting the asteroid wouldn't have been for the planet. It would have been for the dinosaurs. The planet was fine, and it made way for us.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Might take a while, planet don't care...

[–] mawkishdave@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Professor Farnsworth says he doesn't want to live on this planet anymore. Nature is saying we can't live here anymore.

[–] bobby_hill@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Futurama becomes increasingly improbable with every new year; we likely won't even make it to 3023 at this rate.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a little dash of creation in your destruction to remind you of Saṃsāra and our completely inconsequential existence in the Universe.

I both love and hate this photo. Cute little bright yellow blooms telling me that things are very bad.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a reminder that species do go extict, but these flowers are not a new species. This is not really creation. To be fair it could lead to some in the future. Evolution of new species takes some time.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking more about the new bloom as a creation/rebirth metaphor, not that the plant itself is some new genetic mutation. I apologise, I likely wasn't entirely clear with my navel-gazing.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I feel I should apologize too, I'm not always grasping metaphors correctly. I actually like your Saṃsāra association.

[–] rayyyy@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Not only flowers are appearing because of the heat, but new diseases will be likely showing up.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Shit’s wack.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I should move there